Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Betty Azar


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The result was   keep. JohnCD (talk) 09:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Betty Azar

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I cannot find any evidence that Azar passes any one of the multiple SNGs that might apply to her (academic, author, etc.).  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  15:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Although this one doesn't qualify for A7, since it asserts she's written potentially notable books, there's no indication of her actually having notability. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 21:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Azar's books on English grammar have had significant impact on higher education (PROF #4) and have arguably had a significant impact on her scholarly discipline (#1), English as a foreign or second language. For example, here is a conference web site that declares to English teachers, "Betty Schrampfer Azar is the name we've all seen on the classic blue Understanding and Using English Grammar textbook for years." I'm not at the office so I can't access Web of Science right now, but according to Google Scholar 278 works cite her English Grammar and 140 cite Basic English Grammar. (It is also my subjective impression that Google Scholar under-rates books, relative to journal articles. To add just a dash of objective evidence to that impression, GS says Understanding and Using English Grammar is "cited by 6", yet the first ten GS results include eight papers citing the book, some of them in turn cited dozens or hundreds of times.) Cnilep (talk) 00:09, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:21, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:14, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep I consider Cnilep's information to prove notability under WP:PROF. Probably notable as WP:Author also. (see WorldCat library holdings   DGG ( talk ) 00:51, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cnilep. Her textbooks are widely used in teaching ESL. If you try searching online for esl grammar textbooks, they crop up in pretty much every list. —  Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 11:44, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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