Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Betty Cherry


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The result was redirect to Miss World 1956. Neil N  talk to me 22:28, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Betty Cherry

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non-notable &#40;&#40;&#40;The Quixotic Potato&#41;&#41;&#41; (talk) 15:06, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. She got a bit of additional attention due to a gaffe when she was competing for Miss World 1956: she was accidentally and prematurely given the winner's sash, and then ended up being named first runner-up. This story got some mention in the wake of the Miss Universe 2015 gaffe when Steve Harvey read the wrong name.  See e.g.  --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:22, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong delete being Miss South Carolina USA is not enough for notability, and no show of other notability. Passing reference because of something that had nothing to do with her actions is no reason to have a stand alone article on her.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:16, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Claims that are not backed by policy are personal opinions, and as such are arguments to avoid (WP:ATA) in deletion discussions. Unscintillating (talk) 02:39, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:17, 10 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment As per Arxiloxos, this runner-up was briefly thought to be the Miss USA of 1956, and is still getting attention in 2015.
 * Wrong venue There is no evidence of a deletion DEL-REASON here.  If further discussion is needed, the policy place for a content discussion is on the talk page of the article, with DR if needed including RfC.  See WP:Deletion policy.  Unscintillating (talk) 02:39, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as the only claims of significance here are participating, that in itself wouldn't actually satisfy the applicable standards as notability is not inherited. SwisterTwister   talk  06:46, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Total elapsed real-time for this contribution is 74 seconds, (06:45:16 to 06:46:30). So participation is a form of inherited notability?  That's not in any policy, guideline, or essay I've seen.  Unscintillating (talk) 09:47, 11 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Miss USA 1956 § Placements, where the subject is mentioned, per WP:ATD-R. Valid search term. North America1000 02:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect may be the right answer here but if so, a better target may be Miss World 1956, where I've now added some text and a couple of sources about the awards ceremony gaffe noted above. --Arxiloxos (talk) 23:26, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 22:50, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Miss World 1956 (thanks Arxiloxos for adding the info). The subject is essentially known for one thing, the 1956 Miss World placement mix-up.  -- Whpq (talk) 15:16, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note This AFD was closed and reopened, see edit history for details.  Unscintillating (talk) 14:47, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


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