Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Betty DeGeneres


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The result was keep DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:23, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Betty DeGeneres

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Article fails WP:NOTINHERITED. She is only notable as Ellen DeGeneres' mom. Hasn't even appeared on the show for a long time. PrairieKid (talk) 22:15, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Her notability certainly stems from her famous daughter, but she has become notable in her own right as a prominent gay rights activist and speaker.  Google news reveals plenty of coverage and reliable sources, and most of them are not trivial mentions.  Her original notability was as the parent of a celebrity, but this has changed. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:29, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. As numerous sources show, she is the author of a couple of books, an activist in her own right, and the subject of substantial coverage in reliable sources over a period of years.  In the words of USA Today: "With book No. 2, she's not just Ellen's mom". --Arxiloxos (talk) 00:13, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep per above. WP:NOTINHERITED is not meant to exclude relatives who independently do things that are notable, even if those things are associated with their famous relative (writing a family memoir for example). Sometimes they become notable just for being a relative, such as Billy Carter, Jimmy Carter's beer-swilling brother. --Green Cardamom (talk) 17:20, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep. She's the subject of plenty of reliable-source coverage. NOTINHERITED means that we don't consider a person notable merely for being related to a notable person; it doesn't mean that we discard reliable sources' decision to make a relative notable. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 14:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
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