Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhagawan Bhandari (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Arguments to delete this based on the absence of independent, substantive, reliable sources have not been convincingly refuted, despite the best efforts of Usedtobecool. Vanamonde (Talk) 02:18, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Bhagawan Bhandari
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I searched for sources under "Bhagawan Bhandari", "भगवान भण्डारी", and "Lord Bhandari" (apparently either a nickname or another translation of his Nepalese name?) and found nothing in-depth. Aside from the one Kane County Chronicle feature, there's just not a lot out there about this guy. I didn't find anything that substantiated the claimed awards. Overall this fails WP:GNG/WP:NMUSIC. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 05:26, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 05:26, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nepal-related deletion discussions. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 05:26, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:12, 18 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep: I was frankly surprised that this article was in such poor shape, and then I was really surprised by how little there was online about him. I have done the best I could with the sources I could find, and I strongly urge the community to keep this one based on WP:NPOSSIBLE. I would remind the community that LDC's don't put everything online as of yet. What little there is, is mostly contributions from teenagers and young adults. If we can't keep articles on a Nepali artist with content and sourcing, comparable to what I've achieved in this one, we'll soon run out of articles for Nepali artists any older than Justin Bieber.
 * I am sure someone is going to bring up the youtube cites. So, let me preempt with this: Those are official channels of those record producers. So, they're contextually RS. If it's kept, I'll reformat the cites properly, and better organise the content. But, for now, that's all I'm willing to do.
 * Courtesy: Lord Bhandari is a completely bogus translation. That's akin to Jesus Alvarez being translated to "Son of God Alvarez". Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 11:44, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Record producers might be an RS for the purpose of confirming "yeah this guy made this album," but they're not independent for the purpose of supporting a claim to notability. We need independent media coverage for that, which I didn't find. (Regarding "Lord Bhandari" - it's what GTranslate kept giving me and I'd rather be accused of searching for too much than for not searching enough, just in case.) &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 14:06, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi! I perfectly understand your viewpoint, and about the translation, it was just a courtesy as I indicated; it was certainly very clear from the nom that you were going on with standard research techniques on an unfamiliar subject, well aware of the limitations. I think everyone can appreciate your diligence. I was never very sure that this article would pass WP:GNG even with the work that I put in, even before I put in the work. As I've indicated already, I am just going for NPOSSIBLE here, as, to repeat, the failure to establish notability clearly here is certainly down to the digital divide. I think there are precedents (I certainly hope so anyway) for a lenient interpretation of relevant guidelines when it comes to third world topics. I am merely suggesting that, were those applied here, I think I have provided sufficient evidence to convince editors that there is enough evidence of notability, well within the good-faith mile of the editor (me) that's proposing such a leap be taken. There is perfectly good reason to take such a leap and there is an equally good reason not to. So, I can certainly appreciate the community's decisions to !vote either way. I have exhausted my arguments 1.5 times over and as such, I will not be commenting (on the merit of the article) any further. Regards! Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 18:08, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete: Heavy dependence on YouTube links and no proper references...citing a tabloid article doesn't qualify the subject to get a Wikipedia page. There are/were hundreds of folk singers in Nepal..fails both WP:GNG/WP:NMUSIC. Ozar77 13:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozar77 (talk • contribs)
 * Notability doesn't depend on how many others there are, in the same profession. There are millions of politicians but only dozens of astronauts. Would you say one is inherently notable but not the other?
 * About NMUSIC-
 * Kane county chronicle, eKantipur and a book.
 * tours of multiple countries.
 * Dhaulagiri cassette center and Bindabasini music are major record producers in Nepali folk music.
 * Collaboration with Bima Kumari Dura, Raju Pariyar, Laxmi Neupane, Bishnu Majhi and so on.
 * Nominated for Hits FM Music Awards.
 * Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 13:12, 22 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete: Fails WP:GNG...where are the sources for multiple tours and on? no sources at all... Ozar77 16:14, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi! I have made all my arguments to the best of my abilities. I even put in a decent amount of time looking up sources and reworking the article, in an effort to save this one. No matter the result, I can say to posterity I tried my best. So, no regrets here. I have left you a message regarding double !votes and signatures in the other AfD. Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 17:51, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:15, 25 July 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   14:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)


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