Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhai Sahib Satpal Singh Khalsa


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The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 16:24, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Bhai Sahib Satpal Singh Khalsa

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I've been watching this article for a while after tagging for notability and as unsourced BLP, but my tags keep getting removed without addressing any concerns. I've searched a bit to find any resources to back up the tall claims within the article, but nothing at all. There's one trivial mention in the Indian Express and that's all in reliable source news coverage. There's mention in a local Indian journal in LA, caption on photo, so nothing significant, and the two pieces on the website in the external links section aren't exactly newspieces, but event stories. Otherwise, ghits are blogs and event reviews. Delete SpacemanSpiff (talk) 02:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete. I did a Google search under "news," "books," and "scholar" and there is absolutely no mention of this person. Also, the article itself contains no secondary sources.  Delete as non-notable.  Renee (talk) 03:27, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment This is not the sort of topic where psources are likely to be found with google. What other sources did you try? DGG''' (talk) 02:27, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment (and response to DGG). My focus on searches has been the honors and accomplishments within the article:
 * 1 - NRI Gold medal award by the British High Commission. If I use the search string as a whole or in piecemeal, the only hit is this particular article; British HC events are generally covered by the media in India.
 * 2 - Bhai Saheb title is conferred by the Jathedar of the Akal Takht and can be a bit difficult to track, however, a search on Gbooks and Gnews shows that many others were conferred the honorific.
 * 3 - Knighthood - the only hits I get are Wikipedia and mirrors including this Boston Univ Theology page
 * 4 - Congressional recognition from Rep Berkley/Sen Reid - these are likely letters of commendation from individuals, so no coverage on Gnews and nothing on the Congressional pages of either of them.

In addition, as far as general notability for a living person, there's one reference in Indian Express which quotes him in a large article, that's all I've been able to find. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 03:53, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I have confirmed in the full Honours lists for both the Birthday and New Year's  honours for 2007 that he was not included-neither for a knighthood or a lesser honour-nor would it seem reasonable that he would be DGG (talk) 00:36, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ( X! ·  talk )  · @199  · 03:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete INsufficient notability to meet guidelines. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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