Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bharat Gaurav International Achievement Award (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Tone 06:34, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Bharat Gaurav International Achievement Award
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The award is not notable and does not meet WP:GNG criteria. Its written in very WP:PROMO nature despite being cleaned up during a AfD just nine months ago. Repeatedly single purpose accounts or IP address have added PROMO material.

The main issue stems from the name of the award itself "Bharat Gaurav" which loosely translates from Hindi to "Pride of India", and hence is a common name for awards given away by numerous organizations. The title of page itself is wrong, the award given by this organization is called "Bharat Gauarv Award". The other three awards mentioned in this page itself don't relate to the article (as if this page is a disambiguation page for all Bharat Gaurav awards). "Bharat Gaurav Achievement Award, Mumbai", "Bharat Gaurav International Achievement Award, Bahrain", "Bharat Gaurav Award, international, UN hall, New York" are different awards by different organizations. Indeed even in Wiki and on web, there are links for different prominent Bharat Gaurav awards, East Bengal F.C. Season Awards#Bharat Gaurav Award, India International Friendship Society, Bharat Gaurav Sanskruti Organization, Bharat Gaurav in Birtish Parliament

Hence the numerous links in the page itself are not about this award, ,. The only 2 articles in RS sources about this award are clear PR ,

I have taken all the information about this award from this official website as it was confusing to navigate the myriad of such awards. Roller26 (talk) 11:06, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment for others to be easy to decide whether the "Bharat Gaurav" award is from this organization, this award is only awarded in Delhi from 2014 to 2019 and in Hotel Taj Palace, Delhi from 2016 onwards. Bharat Guarav Award History Roller26 (talk) 11:10, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting in light of the participation from the November 2019 no consensus AfD.
 * Observation just how much impact such a Promo page of a non-notable award can have. An experienced user having 80K+ edits not from India (my assumption based on their userpage) can wonder if being conferred with such an award can make a person notable . Roller26 (talk) 11:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete obscure non-notable award. Graywalls (talk) 19:44, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Pure WP:ADMASK. -Hatchens (talk) 03:35, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * delete there is a practice to name your award similar to some notable award, or notable group. This fools other notable persons, and they end up attending. Regarding this particular award, this one fails WP:GNG. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:45, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Inclined to delete: I can't tell what organisation this article is actually about. In the article I see a lion logo and a website that points to bharatgauravaward.com, but there is zero information in the article about who founded the award, etc, and the website doesn't tell me who founded it. Then when I look at sources like this, I don't see any lion logo, instead I see a "hands cupped around the globe" logo, which makes me think that's an entirely different award. And the award that this guy receives, a large dish-sized medal in a frame, is not consistent with the four-lions trophy or the other lion-based trophy I found photos of. Further, as I look back through that website's Wayback Machine history, it looks like a very different organisation. Logos are different--instead of lions, I see multi-coloured dancing people in a circle. I see "All India Human Welfare Council", vs. the "Bharat Gaurav Award Foundation" that is currently listed at that website. While their About Us pages share some thematic similarities (old site vs current site) about this being an award to honour those who do good things for society, and both require letters of recommendation, I can't say for sure that these are the same organisation. Also, website ownership looks like it could have changed some time in mid-late-2017. And, since I can't find any in-depth coverage about the organisation(s) from reliable published sources, I have zero confidence that this is an article about a notable award. And yes, like the nominee suggests, the "Bharat Gaurav" name alone is very common, and it's not hard to get the press to send a photog to an award ceremony. That's public relations 101. So, in short, it feels like an article about a non-notable award mill. And to get a better understanding of the problem with Indian award mills, please see the trouble with the various Dadasaheb Phalke Awards. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


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