Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bianca de la Garza


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. No consensus to delete this and the unverifiability concern has been addressed in the AfD. The promo issues can be dealt with through editing. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 10:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Bianca de la Garza

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Spam and Unverifiability Cureitlitte (talk) 09:14, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. I can see the COI... Somehow the entire article doesn't mention the link to the Richard Hajjar scandal. However it probably isn't a G11, and she is easily notable being a TV star in the Boston market for several years. GNG coverage: 2021, 2020, 2016, 2015, 2009, and quite a bit more.-- Eostrix  (&#x1F989; hoot hoot&#x1F989;) 09:39, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I have toned down the promotional part and added the more notable Hajjar connection: diff.-- Eostrix  (&#x1F989; hoot hoot&#x1F989;) 10:07, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, User:Cureitlitte, while I agree the article contained quite a bit of spam when you nominated I am perplexed by the fact that you added this spam to begin with (to a not overly spammy article created by User:ButterflyBetterFly two hours prior to your first edit to it (3rd edit overall). Any explanation here for the change in heart here? -- Eostrix  (&#x1F989; hoot hoot&#x1F989;) 10:27, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

thanks for edit, however I'm afraid my research on the said personality might affect with the sense of reputation. Cureitlitte (talk)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:58, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:58, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:58, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  09:47, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, still promotional and coverage is WP:ROUTINE for a journalist. MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:35, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Whatever is still promotional can be removed. She is out of journalism for several years, though being WCVB is not insignificant, she is more significant for her recent dealings. User:MrsSnoozyTurtle how are: Boston Magazine (2021), Boston Herald: Bianca de la Garza ‘should have known’ cash from CFO boyfriend was stolen, company says, Bianca de la Garza is firing back — at the media routine in an way? This is in-depth independent coverage on her.-- Eostrix  (&#x1F989; hoot hoot&#x1F989;) 07:10, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment How do those sources overcome WP:NOTSCANDAL? There does appear to be WP:BASIC/WP:GNG notability without an WP:UNDUE focus on Hajjar, who pled guilty to embezzelment after financing several of her business ventures, which led to her becoming subject to a lawsuit that resolved with a confidential settlement. Sources that independently support her notability without relying on allegations, innuendo, or rumor include Bianca de la Garza on Redefining Beauty, Raising Her Daughter and Embracing Her Latinidad (People 2019), Meet Bianca de la Garza: The woman moving up the ranks in late-night, (Insider 2015), and The anchors next door Newscasters David Wade and Bianca de la Garza maintain life as normal suburban couple in Tewksbury (Lowell Sun 2007). Beccaynr (talk) 00:26, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per the coverage found by Eostrix and Beccaynr. She easily meets gng but the page really does need to be cleaned up for balance. There's no way it shouldn't mention the Hajjar thing. BuySomeApples (talk) 20:51, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment it is kind of weird to add all that promotional stuff to the page, only to nominate it for deletion because of the spam 2 months later. Why bother adding it in the first place? BuySomeApples (talk) 20:57, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 09:25, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep agree per WP:BASIC by Beccaynr. 117.18.230.34 (talk) 05:20, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Beccaynr.4meter4 (talk) 22:07, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as vapid promotional spam with negligible sources except social media. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:29, 11 September 2021 (UTC).
 * look at the initial version of the article by ButterflyBetterFly. All of the promotional stuff was later added by Cureitlitte in a series of edits in July. Later, in August, Cureitlitte nominates it for deletion saying it is spam. I agree that what Cureitlitte added was spam, but this wasn't the initial state of the article and other editors have mitigated at least some of the spam (while correcting notable omissions). The deletion nomination came after this talk page post titled "Supported by embezzlement" which was a notable omission. If an article is hijacked into a spammy form and nominated for deletion by the hijacker that's not a good reason for deletion. There are tons of vapid social media posting and PR releases on de la Garza, however there are also several critical in-depth good reliable sources that cover her.-- Eostrix  (&#x1F989; hoot hoot&#x1F989;) 09:00, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the care with which you have examined this BIO. Unfortunately I think that the sources you show are just as trivial as the one at present. My vote to delete is unchanged. Xxanthippe (talk) 10:49, 12 September 2021 (UTC).


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.