Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bianco di Lierna


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The result was delete. Jenks24 (talk) 05:07, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Bianco di Lierna

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Apparently totally non-notable wine or grape variety (our article is not clear which, or if both). The village of Lierna lies within the Indicazione geografica protetta of the Terre Lariane (on which we should, but apparently do not, have an article). As far as I can see, "Bianco di Lierna" is not mentioned in: As mentioned by here, there seems to have been recent substantial and unencyclopaedic promotion of the village of Lierna and anyone and everything remotely associated with it. Given the total lack of coverage and the fact that the image illustrating the article is of vines growing at Birnau, Germany, on the shores of Lake Constance, the possibility of an outright hoax can't be completely discounted. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:08, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Burton Anderson (1980). Vino (my personal bible)
 * Joseph Bastianich, David Lynch (2012). Vino Italiano: The Regional Wines of Italy
 * The Buying Guide by the same authors
 * Luca Pollini (2004) ''Tutto Vino: guida completa ai vini d'Italia (published by the Enoteca Italiana of Siena, a national institution)
 * Domenico Aragona (2001). I vini d'Italia. Conoscerli, degustarli, abbinarli
 * Alexis Lichine (1987). Alexis Lichine's New Encyclopedia of Wines & Spirits
 * Hugh Johnson (2010). Hugh Johnson's Pocket Encyclopedia of Wine 2001


 * Delete certainly no coverage, and probably a hoax. Nice work Justlettersandnumbers. No mention of a grape varietal in the two cited Italian books from 1829 and 1817. Yes, in th 1800s they grew grapes there and made wine from them. The wine had a nicely sharp taste (al sapor graziosamente tagliente). Editor Alec Smithson who created this article is also the one who added all the wine and vineyard stuff to the Lierna article both here and on the Italian Wikipedia, and some on the French, Spanish and German Wikipedias. His edits to the Lierna article on the Polish Wikipedia were reverted, but were about films not wine. He added a Bianco di Lierna‎ article on the French Wikipedia, but not (yet?) on the German, Polish or Spanish. --Bejnar (talk) 02:35, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or revise lead. The lead says the article is about a variety of grape, but the entire body of the article doesn't say anything about a grape. The article could be re-cast as an article about a wine growing region, if the region has any notability, but it certainly isn't about a grape. ~Amatulić (talk) 06:31, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Verification that they grow grapes there - yes, substantive coverage as a wine growing region - no. --Bejnar (talk) 14:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete There is already an article about the village of Lierna, as noted above. As also noted, this article is not about the grape, as beyond the lead, it spends its time on the village. No sources found. The mislabeled photo is highly suggestive of a hoax, as I would have expected the enology sources noted to have mentioned the grape or at least the region, yet they do not. Non-notable at best and more likely a fabrication. Geoff &#124; Who, me? 22:34, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Searches turned up nothing to show notability of this varietal. Cannot speak to whether or not it's a hoax, but definitely not notable.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:47, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


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