Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bibleblack


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 04:14, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Bibleblack

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Fails WP:NBAND and WP:GNG for the following reasons, broken down by each criteria:
 * 1) lacks the "multiple, non-trivial" part of criterion #1 ("multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself")
 * 2) "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." - does not appear to have had anything chart (1, 2)
 * 3) "Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country." - per #2 by default (can't have a record certified gold or higher if nothing ever charted)
 * 4) "Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country" -- per #1
 * 5) "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)." - per the article, only ever released one album, so fails "multiple" and was on a redlinked label anyways
 * 6) "Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles.[note 5] This should be adapted appropriately for musical genre; for example, having performed two lead roles at major opera houses. Note that this criterion needs to be interpreted with caution, as there have been instances where this criterion was cited in a circular manner to create a self-fulfilling notability loop (e.g. musicians who were "notable" only for having been in two bands, of which one or both were "notable" only because those musicians had been in them.)" - only Mike Wead is notable, so fails on "two or more". Full disclosure: article did link to Simon Johansson (a pro hockey player), but that is the wrong one and I didn't see any other articles about another "Simon Johansson". As such, I removed the wikilinks.
 * 7) "Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability." - not the case as found through #1
 * 8) "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award." - not the case per current available sourcing in my WP:BEFORE search
 * 9) "Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition." - not found in BEFORE and not mentioned in the article
 * 10) "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read the policy and notability guideline on subjects notable only for one event, for further clarifications)." - does not appear the case as their only work itself was non-notable
 * 11) "Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network." - no evidence of this in currently available sourcing that I have found
 * 12) "Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network." - no evidence of this in currently available sourcing that I have found The SandDoctor  Talk 19:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  The SandDoctor  Talk 19:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  The SandDoctor  Talk 19:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions.  The SandDoctor  Talk 19:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, only one album on questionable label. Geschichte (talk) 04:39, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable band. Only results I found connected to the Swedish Bibleblack were the usual junk sources. Metal Storm only lists the trivial stuff, and on Sputnikmusic, the whole coverage is the following: "A Swedish melodic death/thrash metal band." That's it. No reliable sources, no evidence of notability. The band has no page on the Swedish Wiki either. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 14:20, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


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