Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bibliography of Catwoman (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete all. Fram (talk) 14:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Bibliography of Catwoman
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Based on the outcome of this recent AfD test balloon, I'm nominating the remaining bibliographies of Batman Villains for deletion. These consist of the title bibliography and
 * Bibliography of the Joker
 * Bibliography of the Penguin
 * Bibliography of Poison Ivy
 * Bibliography of Ra's al Ghul
 * Bibliography of Two-Face

While I grant these characters are more notable than the one in the previous AfD, notability was not a substantive factor in the decision. These articles are primary reference works that have been largely orphaned for approaching 2 years, and duplicate information available from DC Comics. Wikipedia is not a primary source and there is no reason that editors on the articles for these characters cannot provide footnotes or external links to DC Comics bibliography site.

In addition of course, none of these articles are either cited or maintained, making even their own internal (though non-wikipedia) value suspect. - Markeer 16:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all Unsourced and indiscriminate in nature, these articles are nothing more than directories of comics in which the named characters appear. Save it for the fansites. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 17:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete all per TenPoundHammer. These are simply directories. --Dhartung | Talk 22:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 16:44, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete all following the previous two comments. As I said in the Black Mask AfD this is the kind of thing we have databases for an all of that is covered in a more usable form elsewhere and if those links are missing from the relevant entries then they should be added (e.g. for Catwoman: IMDB, etc.). What I would also urge is that information like this is transwikied to the DC Database Project as this level of detail is exactly why such projects exist. If transwikied none of the hard work people have put into these entries goes to waste. So everyone wins in the end. (Emperor (talk) 19:49, 4 May 2008 (UTC))


 * Delete all per nom and Hammer. No use for these directories on Wikipedia. Doctorfluffy (talk) 18:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - Last I checked, a directory (as referenced in WP:NOT), is a list of names, not a list of references. (Anyone else tired of seeing that comment as a reason to delete a list someone doesn't want?) And I'm rather surprised that on an encyclopedia we have editors "voting" to delete such references. If these have no value, why do we list first appearances? If these have no value, why do we have articles on comics' characters at all? After all, as I've noted elsewhere, these are a listing of the information chronologically by publication. Not "in-universe". (It's about as non-"in universe" as one can get.) But perhaps I'm missing something, so please let me know how this is different than what I would read in: "general encyclopedias, specialized encyclopedias, and almanacs." - jc37 05:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


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