Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BidPay

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep as rewritten. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:51, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

BidPay
An obvious advertisement; perhaps the business truly is notable enough to rewrite this into a decent article, but based on the reviews here they're pretty shady. —Miles&larr;&#9742; 20:54, May 4, 2005 (UTC)}}
 * Delete, advertisement.Feydey 21:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
 * 350k+ web hits, and formerly known as Western Union Auction Payments (so probably often referred to simply as Western Union). Notable and obviously controversial, a real article in this space would definitely be a keeper. Samaritan 21:48, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak delete unless article is rewritten with NPOV. Looks like the relationship between Western Union and BidPay is that they're owned by the same company.  Thanks for fixing my template, Sam.    —Miles&larr;&#9742; 23:33, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Current version is a copyvio (and is now marked as such). I'm afraid I don't consider two bad reviews on Alexa to be much of a controversy - not even WikiNews material much less an encyclopedia article.  But even if the controversy were more substantial, they are a very small subsidiary of First Data Corporation (the parent of Western Union).  Any controversy about their services should be discussed there.  By the way, most of those Google hits are false positives.  Very many are comments at the bottom of merchant or auction pages that "we accept PayPal, BidPay, ..."  Only a few are really pages about BidPay.  Delete.  Rossami (talk) 23:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Of course, but their using it shows a sufficient form of notability, I thought. Samaritan 04:59, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Rewrite - BidPay is a notable Internet company. Firebug 00:43, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep after rewritten. BidPay is a popular service. Cookiecaper 00:53, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Hugely prevalent service. Tens of thousands of eBayers can't be wrong. --Gene_poole 03:01, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep -- notable auction payment service - Longhair | Talk 07:26, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. (Sigh) Another collision between the VfD and copyvio processes. I can't find the rewritten article, the page shows a red link to me. But a rewritten version should be kept, and the copyvio deleted as per procedures. Andrewa 16:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The article has not yet been rewritten. I don't know what happens when, as you say, there's a collision between VfD and copyvio, but my guess is that if no one takes the initiative to write a new article for this hugely popular service then the article will be deleted as per copyvio guidelines, VfD consensus or no. &mdash;Miles&larr;&#9742; 04:40, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.