Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Big Daddy's Restaurants


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The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 02:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Big Daddy's Restaurants

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A closed-down restaurant previous to 1990? Without references or citations or proof of notability? Suggest Delete. Kickstart70 T C 04:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per this Google News Archive search which returns results from The New York Times, The Charlotte Observer, and The Miami Herald. These reliable sources allow the article to pass the notability guidelines. Cunard (talk) 05:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: Restaurants need more than a few random newspaper reviews for notability. The local sushi place in the small town I live in has been written about, but that by no means shows that it deserves a Wikipedia page. -- Kickstart70 T C 06:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply: These references are enough to show that Big Daddy's is notable. A review from The New York Times in and of itself definitely asserts notability. Furthermore, although this is a pay site, I can tell that an entire article is devoted to this restaurant and its founder because of this title: IVi'urray L. Handwerker, 4.8, A Founder of Big Daddy's. The same goes with the other articles I cited above. If that's not enough to show that this restaurant is notable, take a look at this Google News Archive search. There's a review from the Los Angeles Times, Associated Conent, and hundreds of other new sources. There are also extensive reviews from a Google Book search. From this book search, I found Carolina Beach a history book with a page (illustrated with black-and-white photographs) dedicated to the early history of Big Daddy's. Note: This is not a closed-down restaurant &mdash; it's a chain of restaurants that continues today. Only a couple Big Daddy restaurants in New York are closed down. Big Daddy's chain includes Big Daddy's Diner, Big Daddy's Restaurant and Oyster Bar, Big Daddy's Liquor Store, Big Daddy's Bar and Grill, and Big Daddy's Pizza all still exist today. Cunard (talk) 09:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Even if the restaurant was closed down, Notability is not temporary. - Mgm|(talk) 09:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. Meets WP:V and WP:NOTE. AfD is not cleanup. --Gene_poole (talk) 08:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.   —Cunard (talk) 09:27, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.   —Cunard (talk) 09:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions.   —Cunard (talk) 09:30, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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 * Keep per given sources above. - Mgm|(talk) 09:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources showing notability. Being "a closed-down restaurant previous to 1990" has no bearing on notability. Wikipedia covers historical subjects as well as current ones. Phil Bridger (talk) 13:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. The only issue is notability, and it looks notable enough based on the sources.  --Lockley (talk) 22:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


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