Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Big Dean's Ocean Front Cafe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ per WP:CSD. ✗ plicit  06:33, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Big Dean's Ocean Front Cafe

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:46, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink, Organizations,  and California. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:46, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete NCORP fail. Not Yelp. Another one of those restaurant articles. Graywalls (talk) 07:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete - CSD G5. Block evading sock Graywalls (talk) 05:30, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - very likely WP:UPE spam. MER-C 16:44, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi! I'd encourage you to keep the page for Big Dean's. As a Santa Monica local of over 20 years, I can assure you this place, located at the base of the Santa Monica Pier, is a local institution, and, in my opinion, worthy of a wikipedia page. It's long been popular with the local volleyball (which has spwaned a few gold-medalists) and roller-hockey crowd, and is one of the few kid-friendly bars I know of. Like a lot of the old local spots, like Chez Jay or Patrick's Roadhouse, it's also a low-key celebrity dive. I don't go too often, but I've seen the likes of Luke Wilson and Leslie Bibb in there. For the record, I am in no way affiliated with the place, nor the author of the article, just a long-time fan. 2603:8001:6401:20A6:2879:B9C9:B322:76B7 (talk) 17:45, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - The restaurant is not notable enough for inclusion. I do not see that celebrities dive into this restaurant, and even then, Wikipedia articles are not a collection of user-generated reviews. HarukaAmaranth 春香 19:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Like the last guy hoping to save this place. I am going to advocate and I am sure it is just an honest mistake but, if you click the google books reference and shorten it to “Big Dean’s”, you will see about 70 books that mention this bar. It is officially the oldest continuously operating bar in the same location in Santa Monica, and Los Angeles County. It is also about the 15th oldest bar in California and the 5th oldest restaurant in Los Angeles County.
 * 2A01:B747:156:314:F488:E247:8659:2E1A (talk) 21:01, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * There is also a 3 1/2 page article exclusively on this bar in the Los Angeles Times from July 31 1983 that someone should take a look at.
 * It’s titled “Beach: Celebrities in, rascals out at bar-restaurant” in addition to the books. 144.178.0.146 (talk) 00:38, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.