Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Big Eight States


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The result was keep.  Sandstein  18:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Big Eight States

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This page has existed for over a decade, but I'm not sure it refers to a term that is actually used. There are a few mentions in running text, but also "Big Seven" and "Big Nine" are used at least as frequently. Google results show more references to the old Big Eight Conference. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 17:44, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 17:44, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 17:44, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. While not particularly common or well-known, it is cited in a significant way in the Congressional Record, the scholarly paper "Status of preservice elementary science education in the Big Eight States: A comparison with New England", at least one book, etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:12, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Except the book reference includes Massachusetts and not Texas, and the scholarly paper refers to Data were collected from those states which have Big Eight schools, namely Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, and Oklahoma. (These will be referred to as Big Eight states throughout the remainder of the paper.) - a completely different topic of the same name. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 04:56, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * So there are a couple of definitions of the term and the article needs to be expanded/overhauled. The other two sources (I couldn't access the full paper because it was behind a paywall) are consistent and discuss the Big Eight in a political context. The Florida Department of Children and Families proudly states it is "#1 among Big Eight States for overall Child Welfare performance", and the Office of the Inspector General of the Department of Health and Human Services includes the sunshine state (in a footnote). There's also apparently a third, international "Big Eight States" involved with the non-proliferation of weapons. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:41, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, it is irrelevant whether the "Big Seven" or the "Big Nine" are notable or not. The sports definition, on the other hand, can join its counterparts in the article. (Now if we could only scrounge up four more ...) Clarityfiend (talk) 05:47, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I've rewritten the article to incorporate these various meanings. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:21, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's now a useful article on various uses of the term in different publications. It's well referenced. Passes WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 19:25, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:44, 2 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep The entry's topic seems quite notable and relevant. The actual name of the concept may vary between "big seven states" and "big nine states", however, many notable topics do not enjoy a consensus for their name and true meaning as many concepts are arbitrary and greatly debated over. This entry could use some expansion but seems to be okay otherwise.Grapefruit17 (talk) 14:01, 2 October 2019 (UTC)


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