Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bili Sarny detention centre


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. Rjd0060 (talk) 17:07, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Bili Sarny detention centre

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Fails verifiability utterly; no reliable source given even for its existence. Kotniski (talk) 08:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - even the quoted source admits it doesn't have any data. Xx236 (talk) 13:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 16:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions.   —Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete or userfy, per my comments on talk.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Can't verify references, barely speak Russian, no Ukrainian, but the subject maybe notable. There are only traces of proof left concerning Soviet made concentration camps at times in question. Someone who read Igor Newerly's book A boy from the Salski Steppes (Chłopiec z Salskich Stepów) would understand I guess. greg park avenue (talk) 19:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This article is not about a Soviet or communist camp.--Kotniski (talk) 07:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Then what this story is about, your another friendly neighborhood Polish concentration camps? In such case someone must come up with better references than that. If he/she does not - delete. greg park avenue (talk) 18:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.   --greg park avenue (talk) 19:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete given the lack of reputable and verifiable sources about the subject. Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 20:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I do not favor deleting of articles, but this one is about a camp whose existence is dubious. Tymek (talk) 15:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above users. - Darwinek (talk) 19:00, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * no opinion I deprodded it, so the discussion could get some more visibility, but I have no comment on the article itself, except that it does seem to need some better references. But can someone summarize what the Ukrainian sources say. DGG (talk) 04:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I can still decrypt Cyrillic the story in question deals mostly with Chief Piłsudski's regime in the years 1934 - 1935. About the years 1938 - 1939 there is nothing but one sentence meaning that the count of prisoners in the camp Bereza Kartuzka (not Bili Sarny) rose from few hundreds to 7112. And that's all I have decoded for now. Hardly a basis for the Wikipedia article - one sentence in an obviously loaded with POV article simply won't do as per WP:N. Independent sources needed. Choir member statements supplied by author not acceptable either - these are confusing - maybe there was a camp like that, maybe there wasn't - since they can't place it precisely in time and space and even get consensus who had run it - communsts, Pilsudski's goons or others? greg park avenue (talk) 20:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * changed to Delete on the basis of what you find.DGG' (talk) 08:58, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


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