Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Bryant (lyricist)


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The result was delete. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:24, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Bill Bryant (lyricist)

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:CREATIVE. A previous speedy deletion request was declined, and a PROD contested, so an AfD discussion is the only route here. The subject's fame, if any, rests entirely on his association as a writer of the lyrics on some of the songs on Howard Jones' 1984 debut album Human's Lib. After his split with Jones, Mr. Bryant had a long musical partnership with another local (and non-notable) songwriter, Paul Linn – the text of this article appears to be a WP:COPYVIO of the biography on Mr. Linn's website with backup from Mr. Bryant's own website. There don't appear to be any independent reliable sources that discuss Mr. Bryant in detail, either as a songwriter or as a spiritual advisor, which appears to be his main career. Richard3120 (talk) 15:31, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 15:31, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spirituality-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 15:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

(copied from talk page of this AfD) Is the challenge concerned with the content following the split with Howard Jones and having written the lyrics on a UK No 1 selling album? The content that describes the relationship between Bill Bryant and Paul Linn, gleaned from their respective web sites? Or the whole article? Johntason (talk) 15:59, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Please voice your opinions on the discussion page, not this talk page, as most people will not see them here – the problem is that there are no independent reliable sources that show Mr. Bryant's notability. Richard3120 (talk) 16:06, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. What about the reference to Helen Fitzgerald's book and the Humans Lib album credits? Johntason (talk) 16:19, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The book is the only reliable source listed, and multiple independent sources are required to verify notability. The album credits only prove that Mr. Bryant co-wrote some of the songs, and provide no other information about him – if songwriting credits proved notability, then everybody who has ever written a recorded song would be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Richard3120 (talk) 16:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - After looking through the article and citations, I cannot see that this subject passes WP:GNG in any way. Skirts89 (talk) 17:09, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DannyS712 (talk) 00:04, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:CREATIVE. Qualitist (talk) 19:13, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


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