Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Keller (televangelist) (second nomination)


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The result was   speedy keep. Per WP:SK #1 and #2. No request for deletion, and per checkuser there is also abusive sockpuppetry by and. (non-admin closure) Timotheus Canens (talk) 12:08, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Bill Keller (televangelist)
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Merge with Live Prayer and Redirect. Bill Keller is not notable for anything that is not associated with Live Prayer. For all practical intents and purposes he is Live Prayer. He's the only minister to have hosted the television show, he's the only one writing the daily devotionals, etc... Having two separate articles will ultimately just confuse editors and readers about where to put things and where to look for them. We can see this already as things related to Live Prayer -- the show being cancelled due to complaints from CAIR -- are being mentioned on this article. Webley455 (talk) 18:15, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, but move various parts from Life Church to Bill Keller, such as "Howard Stern appearance" and various criticism made by Keller. That would be a better way to avoid any "confusion" between the two articles. Eugeniu B   +1  19:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Perhaps you are not as familiar with the subject as I am. The Howard Stern appearance was aired under the title "Live Prayer with Bill Keller on Howard 101." The criticisms are all also intimately related to both subjects. Bill Keller "prophesied" that John Kerry would win in 2004 through the Live Prayer ministry. --Webley455 (talk) 20:18, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I believe WP:CFORK applies here. Please consider that when making your decisions. --Webley455 (talk) 20:20, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure if that is the case. Splitting out an NPOV article is not a content fork. Maybe WP:UNDUE? -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 01:25, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Redirect per above. -Chimro (talk) 21:06, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge and redir back into Live Prayer. I split it out because there was a WP:SPLIT request and it a seemed reasonable request. In retrospect though Keller does not seem to be notable outside of Live Prayer. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 01:25, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
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