Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill McNabb


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of St Kilda Football Club players.  MBisanz  talk 22:55, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Bill McNabb

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Recent research has revealed that it was Jerry McGrath that played instead of McNabb in the opening round of the 1900 season. This means that McNabb never played a senior game and fails WP:NAFL. See April 2016 entry here and note that his statistics have now been removed from the other external link on the article. Jevansen (talk) 00:06, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment what about the book which is used as a source in the article? I don't have access to it, but would like to hear from somebody who does. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:20, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I have the 2013 version of the book which is the latest edition and he is still listed there, but it's an issue which has only been picked up this year, so I don't know if it's something where we may have to wait until the next edition of the book as I can't find anything else on him apart from those two external links. Flickerd (talk) 16:28, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 22:22, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 22:22, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment, re nom's link, i note someone called Robh is thanked for the research(?), who is he? is this reliable? will this McNabb still meet WP:GNG as a football aberration ie. "recorded as having played for x years that has only recently been corrected"? Coolabahapple (talk) 22:48, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Very good questions. I think this discussion should be put on ice until the next edition of the book comes out. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:08, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Whilst the AFL Tables and AustralianFootball sites aren't official, they are very reliable. and the people who run them don't change anything unless he gets official notice from the AFL or other reliable evidence. He's been deleted from the official records, so we should update our records too. The-Pope (talk) 16:35, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Relisting comment: This is an interesting discussion. The older printed versions of AFL stat books will remain reliable sources despite being superseded by new versions, no? So is there an argument for updating the Wikipedia article with a mention of the errata? What if the article is recreated in the future by someone using an older stat book as the reference?  A  Train ''talk 09:27, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  A  Train ''talk 09:22, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Could we redirect Bill McNabb to List of St Kilda Football Club players, with a note in the latter mentioning this discrepancy? (that article is referenced from afltables.com so as it stands he's not listed). As User:Coolabahapple said he may hold notability as a historical aberration and that may solve the issue raised by User:A Train of someone recreating the article using an older source. Jevansen (talk) 01:21, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect – I support this as a redirect to List of St Kilda Football Club players as AFL tables is generally pretty reliable, but completely deleting it does not sit comfortable with me until there is an update from an official source, which will most likely be the next edition of the book. Flickerd (talk) 05:23, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: per rationale by Francis, aka @The-Pope. Quis separabit?  15:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and The-Pope. A note (sourced to AFL Tables) should probably be made at the Jerry McGrath article, along the lines of "until 2016 it was believed blah blah blah". A similar note could be added to the main list of St Kilda players.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  13:58, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


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