Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Nagle


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The result was Keep as I don't see why this needs to stay open any longer. Partly WP:SNOW, partly withdraw nomination so it works either way. (NAC)Tavix (talk) 21:27, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Bill Nagle

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Unnotable wreck diver. I couldn't find any sources on him and the article fails to mention exactly why he is notable. Tavix (talk) 00:10, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Not notable as mentioned. JBsupreme (talk) 00:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Does not meet WP:BIO. What I do  Xenocide  Talk to me  04:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral: "... it was his pioneering approach to wrecks that set him apart from other divers of his era. In 1985 Bill Nagle lead the team of divers who recovered the bell of the Andrea Doria, which had previously been thought lost and unrecoverable.Bill Nagle was also one of the first people in the Northeastern United States to commence dive chartering as a full time business with the custom dive vessel, the Seeker." These seem to be an assertion of notability to me, admittedly sourced offline. I leave it to others to decide if this makes him notable among wreck divers. Daniel Case (talk) 05:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I created the article, and I don't believe in voting on one's own articles, but I would just point out I only created it because of a number of redlinks in other articles (click on "|What links here" to see). Nagle's life and death were fairly well chronicled in the best selling book, Shadow Divers (which is what I used as my primary (and only) source), although the book is more principally about the mystery U-boat. --Legis (talk - contribs) 11:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Read through the Google results. Of course he's notable. Why on earth was this article nominated? Deletionist timewasters. Arid Zkwelty (talk) 12:29, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Please be civil and refrain from calling people childish -ist words. MuZemike  ( talk ) 01:26, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * There was no attempt to first discuss the issue on the article's talk page or on the creator's talk page, so the nomination was deletionist. Prior discussion could avoid unnecessary AfDs. Arid Zkwelty (talk) 05:30, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I think he is notable enough. He has made some important discoveries. Looks to me like a pretty special person in his field of profession. As for failing WP:BIO, recovering the bell of the Andrea Doria seems to be a very notable achievement particularly since it was thought to be unrecoverable (which I think makes him suitable for inclusion per criteria "...has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field").  C h a m a l  talk 12:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. The fact the nominator failed to find sources is irrelevant, because the article already has multiple sources. Also, Chamal's assertion that did something notable in his field of expertise is something I would totally agree with. - Mgm|(talk) 14:42, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep And cleanup/ rewrite. ChildofMidnight (talk) 15:06, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:Sofixit !! :D --RexxS (talk) 19:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Definite keep. Notability is clear. DS (talk) 17:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep There are 666 ghits for '+"Bill Nagle" +dive' - no prestigious sources, but in the field of wreck-diving, he is undoubtedly notable. --RexxS (talk) 21:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 04:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - article has multiple reliable sources, fail to see a reason for deletion. Wiw8 (talk) 17:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.