Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Silva Entertainment


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 01:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Bill Silva Entertainment

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This article is about a concert production company that does not appear to meet general notability, or specific notability for companies. There are no reliable sources writing about Bill Silva Entertainment that I was able to find. The article was marked for notability and sourcing but the tags have been removed with no actual sourcing provided. The article lists many notable artists whom they have booked but notability is not inherited. Whpq (talk) 14:56, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I fully understand the requirements for notability but I am somewhat confused as to how to cite my sources for this article. While some of the information was obtained online, most of it was found in an in depth interview with Bill Silva from Pollstar's "2009-2010 Talent Buyer DIrectory". Pollstar is an esteemed source in the music and concert promotion industry, but this article cannot be found online.

How would I go about citing a directory? I have the publication but can find no publishing information. This business (Bill Silva Entertainment)has influenced the music business as whole from San Diego to Los Angeles to San Francisco to New York and it deserves to noted on Wikipedia. Please help me tie up the loose ends on this page so that it may remain on your server.

Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grizzleemusic (talk • contribs) 20:23, 15 December 2009 (UTC) — Grizzleemusic (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Sources do not need to be online. Printed sources are acceptable.  Refer to WP:CITE for information on how to cite your source. -- Whpq (talk) 20:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I have made some changes, please let me know what else I must do to prevent this important page from being deleted. Thank you.

Grizzleemusic (talk) 22:33, 15 December 2009 (UTC) — Grizzleemusic (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * As linked in the nomination statement, WP:N, and WP:CORP represent the inclusion guidelines that would need to be satisified. And WP:RS provides guidance on what represents reliable sourcing.  For the purposes of establishing notability, using the company's own website will not establish ntoability as it is a self-published source. -- Whpq (talk) 14:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - still nothing from reliable sources, and the only involved editor has an edit history that reeks of COI and intention to promote. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:11, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - per OrangeMike and the lack of independent reliable sources sufficient to establish notability. MikeWazowski (talk) 04:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.