Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Still (Historian and economist)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 23:01, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Bill Still (Historian and economist)

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No references provided to support a claim to notability. PROD and A7 nominations failed via revert by "brand new" editors. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 08:13, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep, at least long enough to allow editors to develop it. I am not the original editor, but a quick Web search finds a number of resources that attest to the significance of this author and they could be used to fill out the article.  These include:
 * {cite web|title=Keiser report – interview with Bill Still of "The Money Masters"|url=http://www. infowars. com/keiser-report-interview-with-bill-still-of-the-money-masters/ |website=www.infowars.com|date=September 20, 2011}infowars. com is fringe, does not meet our sourcing guidelines and should not be used
 * {cite web|title=Keiser report – interview with Bill Still of "The Money Masters"|url=http://www. infowars. com/keiser-report-interview-with-bill-still-of-the-money-masters/ |website=www.infowars.com|date=September 20, 2011}infowars. com is fringe, does not meet our sourcing guidelines and should not be used
 * {cite web|title=Keiser report – interview with Bill Still of "The Money Masters"|url=http://www. infowars. com/keiser-report-interview-with-bill-still-of-the-money-masters/ |website=www.infowars.com|date=September 20, 2011}infowars. com is fringe, does not meet our sourcing guidelines and should not be used
 * {cite web|title=Keiser report – interview with Bill Still of "The Money Masters"|url=http://www. infowars. com/keiser-report-interview-with-bill-still-of-the-money-masters/ |website=www.infowars.com|date=September 20, 2011}infowars. com is fringe, does not meet our sourcing guidelines and should not be used
 * {cite web|title=Keiser report – interview with Bill Still of "The Money Masters"|url=http://www. infowars. com/keiser-report-interview-with-bill-still-of-the-money-masters/ |website=www.infowars.com|date=September 20, 2011}infowars. com is fringe, does not meet our sourcing guidelines and should not be used


 * Obviously, I realize these are not all high-quality references and I have not checked them in detail. But I do think they are enough to indicate a reasonable claim of significance.
 * In addition to his documentaries, he is also an author. I have seen that he has written 22 books but I can't find them all - just:
 * (Sorry - forgot to sign when I wrote the above.)--Gronk Oz (talk) 11:47, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * (Sorry - forgot to sign when I wrote the above.)--Gronk Oz (talk) 11:47, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * (Sorry - forgot to sign when I wrote the above.)--Gronk Oz (talk) 11:47, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * (Sorry - forgot to sign when I wrote the above.)--Gronk Oz (talk) 11:47, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Seriously? He's notable because someone wrote about him at wnd.com and the like?  Those references are awful.  I think you've reinforced the case for deletion.  Nomoskedasticity (talk) 12:26, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The article is obviously in poor shape, and at the moment it does not provide the evidence to prove notability. But as the guidelines say, "If an article fails to cite sufficient sources to demonstrate the notability of its subject, look for sources yourself". And I found enough in a few minutes to incline me towards allowing time for the author to work on it and see whether they can bring the article up to scratch.--Gronk Oz (talk) 07:41, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * No, those sources don't support that notion -- they're crap. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:35, 14 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment**. I'm not sure that this subject is notable enough for an article, but I would note that we have already been through this issue before. Wikipedia had an article entitled "Bill Still" and an article entitled "The Money Masters", both of which were deleted a while back. Famspear (talk) 13:37, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment. I have to say that the list, in the proposed article, of Bill Still's "accomplishments" is pretty funny, though. Famspear (talk) 13:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Upon reflection, the subject does not appear to be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. As noted above, a prior article on Bill Still was deleted from Wikipedia some time back. Relatedly, an article on "The Money Masters" (his internet "documentary") was deleted, apparently around February 2008. Another article on "The Money Masters" was later created, and that article was deleted (around June 2013, I think). If anything, the current state of this article illustrates the lack of notability of the subject. Famspear (talk) 20:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


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