Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Wiltrout


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The result was Delete. Randykitty (talk) 16:16, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Bill Wiltrout

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Non-notable individual. Wiltrout certainly had a busy and accomplished life, but notable? I don't believe so. The majority of references available on the Internet appear to be in regards to his death or fairly local to his base of operations (Alaska). His claim to fame is he was a high school sports coach who had considerable success within his own state...not national success, just success within his own state. And it's not even a 'powerhouse' state, it's Alaska. Fails WP:BASE/N and, by my observation WP:GNG. Alex (talk) 19:23, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Alex (talk) 19:25, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  19:39, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Alex (talk) 19:59, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alaska-related deletion discussions. Alex (talk) 19:59, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi there Alex,


 * Thanks for your involvement in Wikipedia. I have a few small concerns with your reasoning, which I will list here. There are currently well over 1000 individuals listed at Category:High school football coaches in the United States, and a significant number of them are of comparable notability to Wiltrout.  Is there some reason for his being singled out for deletion?  On the baseball side of things, his accomplishments are entirely comparable to Tom Smith (baseball coach), with the sole exception that Smith had a few years as a coach at the NCAA level.  Otherwise, Wiltrout's article has much greater detail, and just needs inline sourcing.


 * You also mentioned Wiltrout's Alaska connection: does Wikipedia discriminate articles on American individuals based on their state? I work mainly in Chinese-related articles, so I'm not familiar with your protocols.   White Whirlwind  咨   20:57, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep... The Alaska High School Hall of Fame honors and his recognition from the state legislature put this over the top for me.. A brief google search does turn up articles on him as well that should help this meet GNG.. User:White_whirlwind needs to do a better job with his inline citations on the article, but i'm gonna vote to keep for now. Alex, your "but its only Alaska" reasoning is pretty petty. Spanneraol (talk) 23:41, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NSPORT specifies extremely specific details on which coaches are notable per se and Wiltrout very clearly does not satisfy any of these (not even his high school hall of fame membership). That leaves the possibility of WP:GNG, but I can only find locale-specific sources like his obit in the town newspaper. It is pointless to WP:WAX about articles on other high school coaches. Some probably have WP:RS that demonstrate notability, but I have no doubt that Category:High school football coaches in the United States has lots of people that fail WP notability guidelines. Agricola44 (talk) 19:28, 31 October 2014 (UTC).
 * Delete: Sorry, but I don't see what notability guideline being a member of the Alaska High School Sports HOF satisfies. And recognition from a state legislature?  Please.  We don't give a presumptive pass to recognition from Congress, and the reason why we don't do that is that there are a thousand bits of blather from some rep or another, while the others snooze or catch up with their reading, "honoring" the retiring owner of Billy Kidd's Pizza or the County Beekeeper of the Year in their district.  Nothing wrong with that, but that ain't notable.  Are there any sources that meet WP:GEOSCOPE? Nha Trang 22:15, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
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