Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Billina


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 20:05, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Billina

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Doesn't appear to have the coverage for a standalone article. Most of the Oz characters are in CAT:NN. ATD could be merge/redirect to List of Oz books. Boleyn (talk) 18:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep ISBN 9781472110367 and ISBN 9780415980067 have some in-depth commentary about this character's abilities and functions in the narrative. Even adding 'oz' to the Google Books search string, you have to go to page 6 or so to get commentaries, rather than the various edition of Baum's books themselves... Having said that, there may be a better way to incorporate and present this material. Jclemens (talk) 19:03, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and if a merge is to be done, List of Oz characters (created by Baum) would seem to be the WP:SS parent article and better merge target. Jclemens (talk) 19:07, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @Jclemens Do you have access to the first book (A Brief Guide To OZ: 75 Years Going Over The Rainbow)? The snippets look promising but are not enough to make sure there is WP:SIGCOV that goes beyond plot summary, and it's all I get (not on Z-library either). The second source I can see (the one page which is the only one that mentions the character), and I think it fails SIGCOV (and is just a plot summary, except the final sentence which I find unclear anyway). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:54, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't. Google books snippet view only, sorry. Jclemens (talk) 06:15, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. I was going to go with Merge and redirect to List_of_Oz_characters_(created_by_Baum), but for example, seems to contain a SIGCOV discussion of this character going on for several pages. I'd like to task the nom if they did WP:BEFORE and if so, why did they discount this source? In case they couldn't access it, Library Genesis is that'a'away. And GScholar suggests there are more sources, for example  contains just a few sentences - but they do go beyond plot summary and concern gender analysis etc. (PS. I've tagged the article for notability and the tag should remain unless someone uses the sources found to expand the article beyond the current plot summary/list of appearances; the article looks bad - but it is rescuable - and yes, I was surprised, too, that a fictional chicken is notable, the odds are usually against this - this is why BEFORE is needed). PPS. Given the scholarly analysis, this chicken is much more notable than many popular culture Pokemons and like that some folks fight tooth-and-nail to keep based on nothing but few blog-like entries in clickbait portals that are common these days... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  06:02, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as there does appear to be significant coverage from reliable, third-party sources. I am in agree with the two keep arguments above. Aoba47 (talk) 03:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NEXIST. The current article is undersourced, but according to other editors, it's clear that substantial coverage from sources exist, so it's always good to keep an open mind and not make assumptions about lack of coverage because of the nature of the topic.Haleth (talk) 14:35, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per the information provided by, , , and . --Rtkat3 (talk) 19:20, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.