Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Billy Costa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   No Consensus ''Non-Admin Close... This AFD has been relisted several times, each with no success.''  D u s t i SPEAK!! 02:41, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Billy Costa

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Non-notable local radio host, fails WP:ENT and WP:GNG, no reliable sources available for verifiability or notability purposes, prod declined by new user whose edits consist largely of declining prods Dravecky (talk) 23:55, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.  —Dravecky (talk) 23:57, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, lots of coverage in reliable sources can be found, including      . Alison22 (talk) 01:30, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * This Boston Herald item is about his messy divorce, these Boston Herald items are a program guide mention of his local cable show in passing while describing a competitor, a short mention of failed contract negotiations, and another brief contract negotiation mention. This article about his local cable show and this one mention Costa quite a bit but they're essentially about the show, not the host.  This brief mention of Costa "shocking" the press corps with a question about Britney Spears' breasts might make an amusingly trivial note in a "Controversies" section but again the article only mentions Costa briefly and isn't really about him. The only article cited above that's truly got Costa as the subject is the one about his divorce. - Dravecky (talk) 01:58, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Since articles which "mention Costa quite a bit" but are considered to be about shows hosted by Costa, not Costa himself, and articles which "truly... [have] Costa as the subject" are only weakly separated, I would not accept the proffered distinction. Because these articles, taken as a whole, significantly and substantially discuss Billy Costa, over a period of time and with respect to multiple events, they establish his notability. Alison22 (talk) 02:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Exercise: consider an article about a scientist such as Michael E. Mann. You would be hard pressed to find any coverage of Mann "himself", in a way meaningfully distinguished from his climatology research - yet it would be generally accepted that Mann is notable. Do we apply a considerably higher standard of notability to entertainers, regarding coverage of their work as not being "really about" them, and not contributing to notability? Alison22 (talk) 02:27, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * While Mann has substantially more coverage in RS than Costa, the principle remains: it is possible for a person to be notable even if reporting on their personal life is negligible. Alison22 (talk) 02:59, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Timotheus Canens (talk) 01:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: Alison22 has been indef blocked as sockpuppet. Pcap ping  02:22, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - there seem to be some decent sources. I was, personally, shocked to actually see someone I had actually heard of up for an AfD nomination for once.  He's pretty well known on the radio around where I am, but I'm not sure if that passes WP:ENT under part 2 (large fan base) and I'm even less sure as to how that might be cited.  Thus, I think it would be nice if some better sources could be found and incorporated.   Cocytus   [»talk«]  22:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Relisting comment: Relisted to generate more discussion about the sources. Note that Alison22 is an indef-blocked sockpuppet. Cunard (talk) 23:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.