Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Billy Elliot the Musical casts


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:38, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Billy Elliot the Musical casts

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This is a discussion that has taken place on multiple occasions in relation to similar lists, all of which have resulted in deletion. (That I have found that is) Other discussions: Articles for deletion/Legally Blonde (musical) cast lists, Articles for deletion/Wicked cast lists. Also per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Aaron Booth (talk) 21:39, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 11:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 11:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - this is a notable musical and the list is well sourced. Fireflo (talk) 10:18, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The musical is notable, that's why there is an article for the musical itself, and an original cast list on the page of the musical. The vast majority is unsourced, and the only information there that is not in the main article for the musical is no more than WP:FANCRUFT.  Why is this list necessarily when similar lists of other shows not necessarily.  -Aaron Booth (talk) 15:43, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 19:22, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Substantial content that is fairly well-sourced and too extensive to be included in the main article. Now let's have look at reality TV fancruft... - MrX 22:17, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * To clarify my last comment, I did not propose that the two be merged. What is notable for inclusion on Wikipedia on Billy Elliot the Musical casts is already present on Billy Elliot the Musical.  The vast majority of the content on the page is not notable for inclusion.  The consensus is to list the original Broadway, west end, and maybe a large touring or an otherwise notable production of the show, and any notable replacements.  The list includes all original cast members of every production of the show ever staged, as well as all replacements including replacement of chorus members.  The article also includes fan tidbits such as performing at a particular show, injuries, audition process, reasons for declining a role, and other such indiscriminate inclusions.  The article is much better than it was just a few months ago, however such lists have been determined per consensus to be deleted per AFD discussions.  (See cited cases in nomination comment) -Aaron Booth (talk) 00:58, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess I see your point. Even if the article is not deleted, and unsourced sections should be removed. I wonder if this discussion will get enough involvement from other editors. It may require a RfC to properly gauge consensus. - MrX 01:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Hi we talk a while back about this page, I just notice that u are deciding to delete page. Why will u delete a page that has been organize well enough more than any musical page i seen on here. I been keeping updates on cast and all, and also making sure I source people that aren't cast yet, by articles of it not fan sites, which i stop doing. If anything all I seen on other cast pages on here is like 11-12 cast or just original. I will like to keep this page and just try to keep everyone updated on who is in who cast. I do see your point. This is just my oppinion what i've seen on here of musicals. I think this is more organize page over any cast page. If anything from a fan of theatre, I will like to know who playing who right now. Not just original cast mates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriciasigmond (talk • contribs) 07:54, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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