Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Billy J.P. Moses


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The result was   Speedy delete a7, no credible assertion of notability. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:45, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Billy J.P. Moses

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"Actor/Radio personality" of questionable notability. Article is wriiten like an advertisement, and disguises certain key points - claims to have worked for CNN are false, as coverage is from CNN's iReport, which is user-submitted video. No independent or verifiable third-party sources provided for other claims of notability. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 04:06, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

The article in question does lake verifiable sources, but I am in the process of posting them. NorthernNine (talk) 04:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Verifiable third-party sources have been added to the article. NorthernNine (talk) 05:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The majority of the article was copyvio and has now been removed. VernoWhitney (talk) 11:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * For stable documentation of copyright issues, see . Contributor has been advised appropriate means of verifying license. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete I feel a certain degree of sympathy for someone new to editing Wikipedia who puts a lot of effort into trying to make an article on a non-notable article acceptable, only to see their efforts dismissed. However, there is unfortunately no evidence at all of notability. the "references" currently given in the article are: A link to Billy Moses's own web site; two links to the same imdb page; a blog post which mentions Billy Moses, but does not give any support to any statement to which it is attached; a dead link; a link to a television clip telling us that he was one of the thousands who won tickets to the Michael Jackson tribute; a link to a video clip of him commenting on that Jackson tribute; a link to iTunes previews where we can access Moses's material if we like (not to a source which gives independent coverage of Moses); a link to a school's online "handbook" which does not even mention Billy Moses, but is attached to a statement that his mother works for a school district (incidentally the handbook does not mention her either, though it would be irrelevant as a source on him even it it did). That is all. None of this comes anywhere within a thousand miles of being significant coverage in independent reliable sources, and much of it is neither significant nor reliable nor independent. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note The above list of "current" references was correct when I started checking them and preparing the above post, but while I was doing so the article was heavily edited, so the list may possibly not have been correct when I clicked "save". Nevertheless, a quick skim of the references available now suggests much the same situation. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * delete I on the other hand feel no sympathy whatsoever. What I see here is someone trying to game the wikipedia system, to get his 15 minutes of fame. (For the record - AGF went west when I saw Northern Nine warning off someone who was merely trying to remove coyvios from the article - baad fail.) The Northern Nine Radio Network itself seems to be non notable; much less notable are those who make prograammes for it. --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have now seen much more of NorthernNine's editing history than I had when I wrote the above comment about "a certain degree of sympathy". I was assuming good faith, but I have now seen enough evidence of bad faith that I agree with Tagishsimon. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete The user is playing games. He's A7 in my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.87.125.57 (talk) 13:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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