Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Billy Lo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Billy Lo

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Article on a non notable character though in notable films played by a Notable character (understatement!). The article cites no sources, though contains a link to IMDB which contains even less information than the article and invites viewers to edit it so cannot be a WP:RS. Appears to fail WP:N and WP:OR at the least. Information would be better placed in the actor's article or those of the films or film series. HJMitchell   You rang?  21:48, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: IMDB does not "invite viewers to edit" (that's wikipedia). They allow viewer submissions in addition to their own editorial efforts, and those submissions are vetted vefore IMDB publishes. HOWEVER, and yes, wiki does not accept IMDB as an RS, but allows it as a tool to encourage further research and sourcing. And as an External link, is quite acceptable.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:11, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. I had a quick check, and although the character is popular on the web, as it was Lee's last role (I think), that doesn't give the character notability. No reliable sources give anything but a passing mention. Fences and windows (talk) 23:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to his last film. Since it's the last character Bruce Lee played, it's not unlikely for readers to look up the character. We should be able to point them to a relevant article. - Mgm|(talk) 09:03, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —PC78 (talk) 23:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and further source. As a character in multiple notable films, did no one think to look at Google Books? The fictional character in these does have some coverage: Encyclopedia of Chinese Film ISBN 0415151686, Hong Kong Cinema ISBN 0851704964, From Bruce Lee to the Ninjas ISBN 0806510099, Great Martial Arts Movies ISBN 0806520264, Screen World ISBN 0517541408, Contemporary Theatre, Film and Television ISBN 081039958X, Bruce Lee ISBN 0822596881, etc... and Bily Lo is mentioned in reliable sources (and yes, in connection with Bruce Lee): Google News. Sources only need to be non-trivial when the mere existence of these sources is used to establish notability. That's not the case here, as the Billy Lo being a character in these films is easily verified.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:33, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * But is the character himself notable? A brief mention in some film encyclopedias (which I also found easily when I looked earlier), does not establish notability for this character. If there is any non-trivial coverage, please point to it and use it to improve the article. Fences and windows (talk) 23:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.