Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bionicle Sector 01


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Delete. Deathphoenix ʕ 14:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Bionicle Sector 01
Delete. Very non-notable fansite. Does not meet WP:WEB or any other form of notability check, hence violating the whole Wikipedia not being a web directory thing. Does not show up in the first 5 pages of Google results for bionicle, unlike another fansite that has so far been accepted. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. Full name returns 31 google hits and absolutely nothing showing anything notable. The site forum has statistics disabled, but there were 0 members online at the time I checked--an impossibility if it has enough members to be notable by population. Text of site appears to have been written by the prepubescent: "Bionicle fandom would forever have a reference site that did not suck." --Fuhghettaboutit 06:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as above; pretty much ... the site creator abdicated because high school required more of his attention. An illiterate article that doesn't even give the link for the site it's touting?  Ravenswing 08:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails to meet WP:WEB, as well as a lack of sufficient notability to warrant own article.--Auger Martel 07:48, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, does not meet WP:WEB, Alexa Rank: 978,865. Not notable. - Motor (talk) 11:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Minimal web presence, no attempt to explain the justifiability of "bionicle" or even explain what it is. Back to the drawing board. Inter lingua  talk 13:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. Does anyone even know what the hell it is yet? W guice 20:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment The wikipedia is loaded with Bionicle fancruft, apparently. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 22:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete under WP:WEB, not notable enough. Jammo (SM247) 01:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Hello all. I am an admin of the BS01 Wiki (Or Utopia as noted on this page). Personally I think that this page should be deleted. The maker of this page, a co-worker of mine, has done nothing to this page. All it consists of is the wiki itself. So I, an admin of the wiki, thinks it should be deleted. Obviously this should be enough to get the job done. But now, I must give some other comments... Bionicle Sector 01 is the most trustworthy and reliable database of Bionicle knowledge for the storyline itself. Quite frankly, I find is funny that you guys take hits on google as a criteria for a website. BS01 does not need to explain what Bionicle is, because all fans that use the site know what the heck it is. It is a database for storyline information. As for the wiki, that is entirely different. The wiki is an add-on of the site and has grown considerably: It it now the biggest database for Bionicle storyline information. Consumed Crustacean, sure you guys have a page called Bionicle, but your pages on Bionicle are very inaccurate. In fact, it is a running joke on BZPower, the largest forum site for Bionicle, that Wikipedia is very inaccurate. Even the writer of Bionicle himself deems it false. XD. ~Utopia from BS01 Wiki
 * Comment - Well, considering that Wikipedia gets over forty billion hits a day, and that your "Bionicle" site isn't even in the Alexa top hundred thousand sites for hits, one would think that if you were serious about this subject and found the information on Wikipedia lacking, you'd improve the article. Surely there are devoted fans of these toys somewhere who consider it more productive to get the message out than to jeer.  Ravenswing 05:16, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - Oh, believe me, we don't just jeer. We majorly help changed Wikipedia's pages on Bionicle. We almost made everything accurate, but then some other nutcase (as some member once called them) edited in pure speculation. So we actually do both. As for hits, I wouldn't doubt it. Bionicle isn't exactly your greatest of subjects. Besides, Wikipedia is huge: Just about everything is here and everyone over the entire nation, and sometimes elsewhere use it. So I find it highly unfair to compare both sites. I mean, let's look at the facts. Our wiki has 9 sysop users, only 5 or them are true staff. You guys have almost 1000 admins. Now, the ratio of admins to members is about the same for both of our sites (last time I checked) so if you compare that... 6/1000 is a pretty big difference. Not enough to minimize the gap in hits, but oh well. And also, why do you quote Bionicle? You guys can't exactly compare any wiki to BS01 Wiki because there is a much smaller population going at it. ~Utopia
 * Comment - I would like to apologise. I was busy that day and I could only complete the wiki part of it since that's the place I know the best. I will go and update it as soon as I can. (which is not now) Again, I am deeply sorry. (And Utopia, you are a Moderator, like me, not admin. Swert is admin...) - Bioran23 Quick-Speak
 * Comment - Also, it is NOT a non-notable site. As I stated already, it is supported by the site BZPower, and of which does shows up within the top five of BIONICLE on Google. May I also say that the BS01 members is actually BZPower members. BS01 does not have it's own forums, meaning that it's forums are supported by BZPower. The admin CM has left of which is correct, but it has been passed down to administrator Swert. And also, although there are approx. 600 and more members, they have many unregistered members who read it without signing in. As far as I and Utopia knows, information of the wiki has been quoted more than once on BZPower as proof to many things. As Utopia stated already, Wikipedia's BIONICLE page is being laughed about for it's strong inaccuaracy and lack of information, unlike BS01 Wiki, which has many DETAILED pages on different objects and Locations (Of which I tend to) plus detailed entries on the characters. I found it rather rude to comment on a site which you know nothing about by just "Looking it up on Google as if it is the best source in the world" while your pages are being joked by 30000 people around the globe. And also, Wikipedia is huge, yes it is, but you can not just comment on something which is smaller and seems to be less important in your eyes. You and I are all humans, and you and I are all living organisms, there is no difference. - Bioran23 Quick-Speak
 * Acknowledge - Look, if the page really lacks so much then yes, go ahead and delete it. - Bioran23 Quick-Speak


 * Delete as per nom. NN and fails WP:WEB  Amalas   =^_^=  17:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - Bioran, technically, we are all admins. Saying admins is for simplicity sake here because they don't have "moderators." They have different terms, we have different terms, so I'm just speaking in their language. And also Bioran, I see some problems with your comment. You see, we are talking on WP now, and must play by their rules. Now they say we have to be seen by google, for us to have our own page. Although I think it is unfair as well, that is the way things work. But now, using humans and wikis in metaphor? I have to say that there is a difference. But in the end, this duscussion is just a train derailing: It can't be stopped from its doom. Per say their...WP:WEB rules this page is to be deleted. Sorry I couldn't add more...~Utopia

Look. I hate arguments and most of all, fights, so:


 * Delete under page maker's request. - Bioran23 using I.P 202.85.42.140


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