Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Birger Sellin (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 17:15, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Birger Sellin
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It's true that he has a book that he allegedly wrote through facilitated communication, and even a film produced about him, but most sources in German and English falsely claim that he can communicate through facilitated communication, which is scientifically unreliable. See Amy Sequenzia, Sue Rubin, and Benjamin Alexander (writer) as examples of similar deleted articles. There is at least one article that questions his method of communication (https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-13684517.html), but it is not clear whether he is notable as a subject of controversy. Ylevental (talk) 14:59, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:21, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disability-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:21, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:15, 13 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete extraordinary claims require extraordinary sourcing. That is clearly lacking here. What we need is an indepth and balanced article on facilitated communication, with a proper level of skepticism. We need to avoid dragging people into this. Basically, getting a book published does not make someone default notable. I have to question why then running after a ball in one game can make you notable, but this is not the place to attack the horribly over broad inclusion cretieria for footballers. Being a published writer does not make one default notable, and so Sellin is not clearly notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:03, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NFRINGE requires that the subject's notability be established with sources skeptical of the fringe claim. It is not clear the fringe notability guidelines are satisfied. --Wikiman2718 (talk) 19:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


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