Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Birmingham Salvo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge all to List of Championship Gaming Series teams,  which has yet to be created. Articles will not be deleted afterward. lifebaka++ 12:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Championship Gaming Series teams

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Mass nomination of team articles from a notable video gaming league. The key question is that, while the league may be notable, do the individual teams each also have separate notability? The team articles are all devoid of independant sourcing that would indicate notability. One was A7 speedy deleted within the last couple of days, and then recreated, which lead up to my looking at them all. I know that in normal professional sports, individual teams are assumed notability. But does that extend to computer gaming? I just do not see it being such. TexasAndroid (talk) 16:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Although Computer Gaming may not be considered a sport to many people, it has many of the same components: A League, Teams, Competitive Meets between two teams, A Championship and positions depending on the game being played. So saying that computer gaming isn't a sport because it's on the computer is an opinion, not a fact and the fact is that computer gaming is not much different than American Football: Positions, Teams, A League, Drafting, Seasons and Competitive play. Kingofeds (talk) 23:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge all into a List of CGS Teams Article --Numyht (talk) 17:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - The league itself is noteworthy, yes, but you also need to consider that it's only 2 years old. The team pages don't have all too much information because of this short history of the league itself. If the consensus it to delete or merge, at least Keep 3D.NY - they have a much greater history than the other CGS teams, and they were formerly a well-known gaming team before becoming the CGS team that they currently are. TheChrisD Rants • Edits 18:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * A few reliable, independant, non-trivial references to each of these would go a huge way towards showing that they have notability. Even your "well-known" 3D NY is devoid of such sources currently. - TexasAndroid (talk) 14:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * From my searching all existing Team 3D info has been redirected to the 3D.NY CGS page. Unless anyone else knows of where one could find info on the old Team 3D? TheChrisD Rants • Edits 14:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge and delete - not notable enough for seperate articles. Also delete the nav box on the articles. Aygo (talk) 18:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 (talk) 20:55, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect all articles to Championship Gaming Series. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. MuZemike (talk) 02:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Teams have no independent notability and are already adequately covered within Championship Gaming Series. nancy  talk 10:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge all. Which should be easy, as each entry actually contains very little information.  Ford MF (talk) 18:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge all. 5 guys in a basement is not the same as a professional sports team.  Any coverage can go into main article unless there is enough sources to warrant an individual page. Drunken Pirate (talk) 20:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per Numyht Pie is good   (Apple is the best)  21:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.