Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bishop Harold W. Speights


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:03, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Bishop Harold W. Speights

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NN person, No coverage, even less with "Bishop" added in C T J F 8 3  chat 00:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: I'm finding only very sparse local mentions of the name in news coverage, so I can't find the substantial coverage required to prove that this person meets WP:BIO inclusion requirements. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: My research, noted on the article talk page, shows the same as Gonzonoir's, but also shows almost nothing as to the Original Church of God denomination (its history). Just for the record, Speights' denomination is apparently different from The (Original) Church of God. —  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 15:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable. Prsaucer1958 (talk) 16:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Armbrust  Talk  Contribs  22:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I think the presiding bishop of a denomination of 50,000 is probably just about notable. this is why I have wikified it.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * After researching the article about the denomination, I have some grave doubt about that wholly–unsourced number. In the early 70s it only had 7,000 members, according to a reliable source given in the church's article. The current leader says that there's 63 churches in the association and that would average out to almost 800 members per church. Most of the congregations of this kind of church tend to be quite small. If that's going to be the assertion that's going to rescue the Bishop's article, then it needs to be sourced. Regards,  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 01:01, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with TransporterMan; though the title "bishop" made me presume this person would be notable I'm just not finding the reliable sources to establish it as a fact. Gonzonoir (talk) 07:37, 22 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Since the title Bishop can be purchased for a small donation from a number of small churhes, one should not assume that a person is notable because he is a bishop. Prsaucer1958 (talk) 19:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * While my research has found some indirect evidence that Speights was, indeed, connected with the Original Church of God or Sanctified Church denomination, that's all I've been able to find. It would seem to me that the bigger problem here is not the purchased–title one, but the lack of evidence that he had the title at all, regardless of how he got it, and even if it is true that he was given the title by the Original Church of God or Sanctified Church denomination, whether "presiding bishop" necessarily means the CEO or CEO–equivalent of the denomination, which according to its history has used various titles for that position. Ultimately, the big problem is that there are just no sources, even non–reliable ones for this article. Regards,  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 19:01, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


 * While bishops of larger denominations are notable, by the size of their see, newsworthiness, or influence, I don't see this here. Delete. Bearian (talk) 22:13, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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