Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bishopgarth


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. Police academies do not enjoy the same categorization as colleges/high schools. The article had no independent sources and the comparison to other police academies in England was woefully inadequate. This article was borderline promotional and failed to demonstrate notability/importance. I would not, however, be opposed to recreation if it were done with RS showing notability/importance.--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 06:29, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Bishopgarth

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Non-notable local police training centre, fails WP:N. Joal Beal (talk) 15:07, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Bishopgarth is a local landmark and centre of note for UK policing, being one of the UK's largest police training centres.WP:ORG

The site is of special interest due to the architecture of the building by noted UK architect Sir Hubert Bennett KT, who is note for designing the GLC building in London. WP:BIO

The page is awaiting some updates including notes and/or photogaphic reference on Sir Hubert's building and the Bishops Palace another building of note that occupied the Bishopgarth site built in the gothic revival style. The page is also awaiting more information on police training. WP:DEMOLISH

For further similar articles that already appear on Wikipedia see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashford_Police_Training_Centre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_Staff_College,_Bramshill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Police_College

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendon_Police_College

I hope the article is allowed to remain and be expanded upon —Preceding unsigned comment added by StephenHooley (talk • contribs) 17:43, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable ecclesiatical palace. Colonel Warden (talk) 11:30, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to West Yorkshire Police. I can find no evidence that the building itself is notable. Having checked Google News, Scholar and Books, the nearest I can find to significant coverage in reliable sources is this article in the Yorkshire Evening Post, which gives it one sentence: "In the early 1990s the national detective training course was based at West Yorkshire Police Force's Training School at Bishopgarth,Wakefield." Not enough on its own. The history page of its website makes clear it's a pretty undistinguished piece of late-Victorian architecture which 'was never favoured by the authorities as a Bishop's residence' and was only used as such for a relatively short time. English Heritage gives a Grade II listing to the police box in its grounds but that was moved there in 1982. Bishopgarth itself is not a listed building. Qwfp (talk) 14:55, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There are hundreds of books listed by Google. Among them is Bishop Walsham How - A Memoir which contains detail about this place.  Your search thus seems inadequate.  And your proposal to merge into an article solely about the police would neglect the first role of this place as a Bishop's palace.  This seems to be WP:RECENTISM. Colonel Warden (talk) 21:33, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Bishop How commissioned the building of Bishopgarth and was its first resident, therefore his memoir is not an independent source as required for WP:notability. The other books found by Google appear to either be mentions rather than significant coverage, or to concern the hymn tune of the same name rather than the building that is the subject of this article. The building has been a police training establishment for over 60 years, longer than it was a home to bishops. Qwfp (talk) 23:30, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:22, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep -- This is a tertiary education institution. We regard every high school as notable, so that I think every teriary college ought to be.  The objection of Colonel Warden to the bishop's memoir as a source is to my mind excessively pedantic.  Peterkingiron (talk) 20:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to West Yorkshire Police. The article gives no indication that the building is notable and police training academy should not be analogous to a teriary college.-- Pink Bull  19:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.