Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bishoy Kamel


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The result was withdrawn by nominator. Addhoc (talk) 22:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Bishoy Kamel

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Notability concerns - lack of significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject. Addhoc (talk) 18:48, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Strong Keep I originally speedy-d tagged this, but then withdrew the tag. If, as the article claims, this individual founded a number of churches and has some publications under his belt, then he may indeed be notable. References really should be provided, though-- at least two of them to substantiate claims of founding churches and publications. --Pgagnon999 (talk) 21:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Addendum: After conducting a Google search on the subject of this article, I believe that notability is indisputable. There are nearly 600 hit on this friar, a good portion of which translate into reliable sources. Most of them are Coptic Church related media. This doesn't even include the more numerous hits in arabic and other languages. Although the article is unsourced and poorly written, the topic more than meets WP:bio. --Pgagnon999 (talk) 02:09, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * In which case Pgagnon999, I suggest you add the reliable sources you've found. Addhoc (talk) 18:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem; easy enough to do. It appears that the good friar is a saint of the Coptic Orthodox Church; I'd say that more than qualifies him as notable. I added a reference & did a little POV housekeeping, but more cleanup needs to be done. Perhaps you could contribute as well.--Pgagnon999 (talk) 21:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
 * Note: Notice of this afd posted on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oriental Orthodoxy. --Pgagnon999 (talk) 22:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep; saints of major churches are generally notable, and there seems to be an ample number of sources.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:18, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


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