Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bissap


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was that not even the nominator wants this page deleted, hence Speedy Keep. Controversial page moves ought to be hashed out on the article's talk page (and there is an ongoing discussion), and the edit warring ought not to spill over to AfD. Pilatus 00:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Bissap
Rename to Roselle (Plant): 1. Roselle is the English term for this plant (see African source, Britannica) Vizcarra 19:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC) 2. Roselle is a more common term for Hibiscus sabdariffa than Bissap:
 * Google results for roselle + "Hibiscus sabdariffa" = 12,200 982 (restricting search to English)
 * Google results for bissap + "Hibiscus sabdariffa" = 255 340 (restricting search to English)
 * Google results for Sorrel + "Hibiscus sabdariffa" - 639 (resticting search to English)
 * Google results for "Hibiscus sabdariffa" - 39,800 (resticting search to English)
 * Googlefight results for for bissap+hibiscus = 473
 * Googlefight results for roselle+hibiscus = 1570
 * Please note, nominator removed content prior to nominating article. Guettarda 21:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * The content was merged without consensus. The information has no bearing on whether to name it "Bissap" or "Roselle" as it pertains to "Jamaica" (a third term, used in Spanish language countries). Either way, not wanting to get involved in a revert war. I will wait until this nomination ends. --Vizcarra 21:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep - Bad faith nom as part of an effort to maintain a fork at Jamaica (drink) (see Talk:Jamaica (drink). Guettarda 19:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename (and assume good faith). --Vizcarra 20:04, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * "Rename" is not an AFD option. This is not the place to request a page move.  Guettarda 21:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes it is, follow the link above and read the first paragraph: "Articles for Deletion... is where Wikipedians decide whether problematic articles should be... Renamed/Moved to another title". --Vizcarra 21:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Nice example of selective quotation. "Rename/move" is a valid vote.  It is not the purpose of this section of the site, as the sentence you partially quoted makes amply clear: "Articles for Deletion ... is where Wikipedians decide whether problematic articles should be deleted or kept" (emphasis mine).  The place to request a page move is, believe it or not, Requested moves. &mdash; Haeleth Talk 23:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep I used to drink Bissap when I lived in Mali! I don't see a good reason why it should be renamed.--Alhutch 20:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename with redirect. Googlefight gives it to Roselle hands down. Swegner 20:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep but rename to roselle (plant) WormRunner &#124; &#91;&#91;User talk:WormRunner&#124;Talk]] 23:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.