Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bitnami


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 06:22, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Bitnami

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A directory-like page on an unremarkable private company. Significant RS coverage not found. What comes up is passing mentions, routine notices, and / or WP:SPIP. Does not meet WP:NCORP / WP:CORPDEPTH. Created by Special:Contributions/Socialized with no other contributions outside this topic. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Regards, KCVelaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 11:56, 4 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep: Plenty of in-depth coverage found via Google News alone (some not in English, which needless to say is not a problem for sourcing). Furthermore, for some reason the article does not currently mention that the installer library is prominently used by some of the most widely-known web development applications, e.g. XAMPP and PostgreSQL. Modernponderer (talk) 14:23, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Also the nominator appears to misunderstand the article they nominated on a fundamental level, as it is about a well-known product and not the much-lesser-known company behind it (which does not have an article). Modernponderer (talk) 14:25, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Stating that coverage exists in Google news is not helpful at an AfD. --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:18, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * When it is this obvious, I must disagree: it most certainly is helpful in that case. Modernponderer (talk) 07:20, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:56, 11 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Enough coverage coming from independent sources. Rzvas (talk) 18:15, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Nom's comment: The links offered above are little better than republished press releases for the company, i.e.:
 * "Bitnami announced plans to open source its Cabin platform, which is billed as a mobile application for controlling Kubernetes," from SDX Central, and
 * "StackPointCloud is partnering with Bitnami to allow customers of its Kubernetes-management software to run the Kubeless open-source serverless software on top of their Kubernetes clusters," in GeekWire
 * These sources discuss company's plans and aspirations, apparently based off company-supplied materials. They do not meet WP:CORPDEPTH / WP:ORGIND and are insufficient for notability. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:18, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * @User:K.e.coffman: I'm not sure why you ignored my previous comment on this, but I will restate it more clearly: WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH, and WP:ORGIND do not apply to this article because it is about a product and not the company behind it. (This is very clearly stated in the very first sentence of the article, in fact.) Modernponderer (talk) 07:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually I see now that the guideline does refer to products and services as well (highly misleading title notwithstanding). Nevertheless, the reasoning behind your nomination still doesn't make sense in light of this fact. Modernponderer (talk) 07:32, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 11:54, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I would propose to keep this page, since installing open source software is not always easy and the Bitnami stacks really help in that - and that kind of information should also be on Wikipedia. But... indeed it should not be(come) an advertisement for the financial/commercial side of Bitnami (the cloud option?).Black Raven (talk) 07:56, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "What I enjoy most about open source is when people take existing products and twist them around into new shapes. I've long had high regards for PortableApps for doing that, but thanks to a commenter on a previous post of mine, I now have a new crew to watch in that regard: BitNami. BitNami is a series of repackagings of common server-side open source applications, deployed in simple packages that take mere minutes to set up and get going. Think of it as PortableApps for a server: WordPress, MediaWiki, phpBB, Drupal, Joomla, and many more server-side apps are available as BitNami packages, with more on the way (like SugarCRM).  All BitNami packages include the app itself, a Web server, and whatever database solution you might need.  Since many of the common applications you need have certain dependencies that have to be satisfied (PHP, Perl, Apache, MySQL, etc.), a BitNami 'stack' is best if you don't already have the other components needed for a given application. For instance, if you want to give WordPress a trial whirl on your local Windows or Linux machine, you can snag the BitNami version, unpack it locally, and run it there. If you like the results, you could then export the database from WordPress to a flat file, reimport it on a server where WordPress already is set up, and pick up where you left off."  The article notes: "Bitnami is a contributor to various open source projects like Helm, which is a Kubernetes package manager; Monocular, which is a search and discovery front-end for Helm Chart repositories; and Ksonnet, which is a configuring application running on Kubernetes. Bitnami also leads the Kubeless native serverless framework. A serverless architecture is similar to containers, designed to reduce the amount of overhead associated with offering services in the cloud. This includes the ability for a cloud provider to dynamically manage server resources. ... Bitnami was founded in 2003 by Daniel Lopez and Erica Brescia, with an initial focus on packaging installers. The company released its first virtual machine image installer in 2007; a cloud images product for Amazon Web Services (AWS) in 2008; and pushed into containers beginning in 2015."  The article notes: "The company offers its own cloud hosting service to run on Amazon. That service provides automatic backups, built-in monitoring and other features to manage apps in the cloud. ... In 2012, BitNami emerged as a key partner with AWS for the launch of its new marketplace. BitNami, with its 80 stacks, helps app developers bundle what’s needed to operate as a service in the marketplace. On AWS Marketplace, BitNami offers WordPress, Drupal and dozens of other apps that can be used on a pay-as-you-go basis. ..."  The article notes: "If an organization is running a pre-configured software stack as a virtual image in Microsoft Azure or as an Amazon EC2 image, there is a high probability the software in question was freely pre-configured by the folks at Bitnami. They've been giving away complex software stacks for years, but giving away installers, virtual machine images and preconfigured instances is only part of the Bitnami story. The other part is their surprise emergence as a competitive provider of enterprise server management systems and software-stack hosting services in the cloud. Nobody knows a Bitnami system better than Bitnami, so it only makes sense that organizations using a free Bitnami image would also turn to the company for its cloud-based hosting services. For its customers, the Bitnami cloud hosting service provides a variety of server management functions, including monitoring, alerting, capacity management, backup automation and disaster recovery, all of which are essential when an organization looks to move their operations to the cloud." <li> The book notes: "BitNami Ruby Stack A rising contender to Instant Rails comes from a group called BitNami. They provide easy installations for many open source applications and frameworks. One of the pre-packaged stacks that they provide a simpler installer for is the Ruby stack which includes everything you need to do on Ruby on Rails development, including Ruby, Rails, and MySQL. Unlike Instant Rails which is only available for the Windows platform, the BitNami Ruby Stack is available for Windows, Linux, and Mac platforms. You can read more about the BitNami Ruby Stack and download it from http://bitnami.org/stack/rubystack."</li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Bitnami to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 09:41, 26 August 2018 (UTC) </li></ul>


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