Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Björn Söderberg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete - There is not a clear consensus to keep. To the keep points: Schmucky, et al. one incident does not a biography make, the murder may have been notable, but the person is not, as addressed by Sceptre in the nomination. However, even the murder may be more properly placed in a larger context article, just as the BBC (thanks, Valentinian, for the pointer, good to see you around!) did. They mentioned the murder in passing while writing about the larger theme of right wing extremist activity in Sweden. To fully honor the spirit of BLP this is what we should do as well, find the right larger context article. Absent a clear consensus to keep, non notable or marginally notable BLP articles should be deleted. Delete without prejudice to merging to a larger context article. Redirects could be made from "BS" and "Murder of BS" to the correct section of that larger context article, if desired Contact me for the deleted materials if needed. ++Lar: t/c 05:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Björn Söderberg

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Wikipedia is not for biographies about people notable for one minor event. Sceptre (talk) 15:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 15:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - being a murder victim does not make him necessarily notable. Does not pass notability guidelines. -- Beloved Freak  15:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * After reading the arguments below (SchmuckyTheCat, Soman etc) I would support a move to Murder of Björn Söderberg or something similar. I still don't think that the victim warrants a separate article.-- Beloved Freak  19:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Though perhaps an unfortunate victim of a newsworthy crime, the article does not indicate that the subject is notable enough for an encyclopedia article. PCock (talk) 16:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hålla (keep). Sweden is not the United States where murders in major cities are everyday news items.  This was a particularly memorable crime because of the extremist politics surrounding it on an issue (xenophobia) that mainstream Swedish politics, and the mindset of the populace, have not come to terms with.  It may be that the crime is more the subject of the article than the victim, but in that case all that will happen is the article is renamed to "Murder of Björn Söderberg" SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
 * Keep but BLP1E-ize - the incident is more the appropriate focus, rather than a biography of the victim. Keep but rename or direct to the crime, per SchmuckyTheCat. FT2 (Talk 17:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I strongly doubt that this article would be posted here if the article was about an American counterpart in a similar fate.--Berig (talk) 18:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, very notable subject. // Liftarn (talk)
 * Delete being murdered (even if it is in Sweden) does not automatically confer notability. X Marx The Spot (talk) 20:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Move and redirect to Murder of Björn Söderberg. Obviously BLP does not apply to a murder victim; nevertheless we should focus the article subject on what is notable, i.e. the murder. S HEFFIELD S TEEL TALK 20:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Politically motivated murders are notable (unless they are a common occurrence in the relevant country/area, which is far from the case here). Even the BBC picked up the story,. Valentinian T / C 20:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom NN Dreamspy (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, possibly move to Murder of Björn Söderberg. The murder has a highly notable case in Sweden, it was followed by some of the largest public manifestations in modern Swedish history, and foundation has been instituted in the name of Söderberg. --Soman (talk) 08:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I am troubled the nominator seems to make a hobby out of deleting other people's contributions. Trav (talk) 23:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, very notable in Sweden. +Hexagon1 (t) 03:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Move and redirect. There are plenty of murders in Sweden that are not notable; this is not one of those. The murder was labelled as a political action (reportedly, Söderberg had told the press about a right-wing extremist being a local union boss, and both murderers were outspoken about their neo-Nazi sympathies). Söderberg's murder was followed by large anti-fascist demonstrations, which also were mentioned in international press . However, the notability is connected to the murder rather than the person, so moving the article to Murder of Björn Söderberg would make sense. And adding more sources, which is not difficult. --Bonadea (talk) 09:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


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