Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Pearl


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep per obvious consensus. (WP:NAC) flaminglawyer 05:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Black Pearl

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Unnotable fictional ship from the Pirates of the Caribbean series. No significant coverage in reliable third party sources and the bulk of the article is WP:OR, personal opinions, and chunks of plot summary acting as if the ship is real. Only three refs are from a press release and a forum posting. Fails WP:N, WP:PLOT, and WP:WAF. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 15:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   —--  AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 15:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect . This is a mess. Merge anything relevant and well referenced back to the Pirates of the Caribbean (film series) and then redirect the title. It is something people might search for probably but not something in need of its own article. I don't see it as being like Tardis, where a fictional vessel has a large, complex and notable story in its own right. --DanielRigal (talk) 15:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I am changing my position to neutral on whether it deserves its own, separate, article. If we are going to keep the article it needs significant work on it. --DanielRigal (talk) 01:24, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - extremely notable. Needs sourcing and a cleanup but there is certainly no reason to delete this.  Pyrrhus  16 ''' 15:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Please actually show that notability by pointing to third-party sources providing significant coverage of this specific fictional ship (not just the film). -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 15:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep since there will likely be an article rescue attempt that will deceptively play up the significance of the topic (such as using a sentence in someone's review of the film to make it sound relevant). Recommend withdrawing the AFD nomination and instead seek to merge/redirect outside this particular realm. — Erik  (talk • contrib) 16:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. I would favour letting the AfD run its course. A definitive result to merge would prevent an edit war between those who want to keep the article and those trying to merge it. If people want to argue for rescuing the article then that is their right. So far we have only had one comment to this effect and it has not been backed by any argument (deceptive or otherwise). Lets see how it goes. We can keep an eye out for canvassing and deception but I don't see anything of that type going on at the moment. --DanielRigal (talk) 16:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - The ship is a highly significant 'character' in the series, and the series has been remarkably culturally influential in recent years. I think there's substantially more argument to be made for keeping this article (suitably referenced and freed from in-universe writing, of course) than (say) Cutler Beckett - a villain whose most remarkable characteristic to my mind was that his claim of nobility in the second movie made it sound like he had mysteriously become the second son of a marquess. The Pearl is a key feature of all three films. AlexTiefling (talk) 18:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep This article provides substantial real world coverage. Jfire (talk) 18:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep- There's real world coverage out there, as Jfire has shown. Umbralcorax (talk) 18:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per Jfire. Important part of a highly notable film series, and definitely worth documenting. JulesH (talk) 21:37, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Sources exist. Nice find. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 01:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


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