Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Point (artist)


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The result was   keep. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  essay  // 08:03, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Black Point (artist)
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Non-notable rapper lacking GHits and GNEWS of substance. Fails WP:BIO. red dog six (talk) 23:18, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails basic notability checks. {{{sub|C}}  A S U K I T E  T} 23:41, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:MUSIC. 02:05, 14 October 2013 (UTC) ///Euro Car GT
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:08, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:08, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete ' Nothing out there is useful, GNews results point back to the Wikipedia article, textbook WP:NMUSIC failure. hmssolent' \You rang? ship's log 02:20, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Reconsidering per sources posted by NTS. Have Google set at google.de, hence the lost results. hmssolent \You rang? ship's log 10:17, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Articles about this artists have been deleted many times per A7 and G11 (see Black Point (rapper), Black Point (singer) and Black Jonas Point) and although I don't remember the earlier versions clearly I don't think there is any notability at all shown in this version either. I suspect that it was created by a sock and could be deleted for that reason, but maybe it's better to have it go through AfD for the future. --bonadea contributions talk 06:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete I have nothing to add to those who have gone before me. Fails WP:GNG. Fiddle   Faddle  08:17, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm not familiar enough with WP:NMUSIC to vote here - but those saying that there are no GNews results are wrong. Here are some sources: Hoy magazine, Hispanic Business, drjays. I did find a bunch of others on Google News for his song "Watagatapitusberry", here: GNews but most are behind a paywall or Spanish...  Nik the  stunned  09:51, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - Who said there were no GNEWS hits? Yes, there are some, but as the comment said, there are none of substance. red dog six  (talk) 14:13, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * One of them specifically states that he's released a charting single - that surely meets point 2 of the NMUSIC guidelines? I've updated the article accordingly anyways (and removed most nonsense). Apologies for the wording in the previous though, it wasn't the best way to word it.  Nik the  stunned  15:07, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Well I say keep per the above anyways.  Nik the  stunned  08:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - passes criteria #2 of WP:MUSBIO by having a hit single verifiable by Billboard magazine. Barnstar to Nikthestunned for following WP:HEY. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   09:46, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Watagatapitusberry. It's a pitbull song and black point was just a guest on it. No other notability. Lack of independent coverage about black point. duffbeerforme (talk) 01:19, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Watagatapitusberry per Duffbeerforme's argument. The artist in question is merely featured in the song.  While the song would justifiably cause an artist to pass WP:MUSICBIO, the artist that it would apply to would be Pitbull (whose notability is neither questioned in general or here specifically).  There's enough here to justify a redirect as my first choice rather than delete, but not enough to establish notability of the artist here. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 21:06, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:55, 21 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Technically, if the musician has produced a charting single, it does meet point 2 of the WP:MUSIC guidelines.
 * As a brief note, I have not done any research into this artist's specific case. Shrillpicc100 (talk) 05:54, 21 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to album per above discussion. Not independently notable per lack of substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. Candleabracadabra (talk) 23:00, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep, on a purely technical basis this artist meets, just barely, point #2 of WP:MUSIC by having a minor hit on the US Billboard Latin Songs chart. I do feel that that notability criteria could do with some tightening on this point though - I think conferring notability based on a minor hit on a niche chart isn't really within the spirit of the guideline.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC).
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