Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blacker (Transformers)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 16:48, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Blacker (Transformers)

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Article with no reliable sources that fails WP:GNG for fictional characters. The usual plan for such non-notable characters is to redirect/merge to a minor characters list but none appears to exist. Black Kite (t) (c) 18:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC) Black Kite (t) (c) 18:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete dor failing notability. Or merge with Transformers: Victory. There's a character list there. It's better to check first before stating "none appears to exist". NotARealWord (talk) 18:41, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to character from Transformers: Victory Mathewignash (talk) 20:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fancruft, sourced to fansites, no real-world notability to be found, fails WP:GNG. Tarc (talk) 22:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - notable multi media character where reliable sourcing can be found. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:59, 10 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge to a G1 character list from the Japanese continuation of the series. —Farix (t &#124; c) 01:29, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * When dealing with non-notable character articles, it is always preferable to look for a list or to create one to merge the article into, or merge/redirect them to the main article instead of outright deletion and is in keeping with the WP:PRESERVE policy. Only in cases where the character is completely incidental should it be deleted. Also, how the page is currently organizes shows the folly of trying to cover more than one character from different series that happen to share the same name. —Farix (t &#124; c) 18:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete there really isn't enough sourcable stuff for a merge to be practical. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  03:12, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * So you are saying that the character hasen't made an appearance in any of the TF series? Because the TF series would be enough to verify basic plot details. —Farix (t &#124; c) 00:54, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Notability - I just added a non-primary book source for the article. Mathewignash (talk) 13:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Toy guides are not reliable sources. If you are going to continue to misrepresent sources to prop up notability, then we're going to have a problem that will need admin intervention. Tarc (talk) 13:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - It's a non-licensed guide to the fiction (not a simple toy price list) written by someone not associated with Hasbro or Takara. It's not primary. I was told the DK book I cited in some other articles was primary because it was a licensed book. This is NOT. By my understanding that makes the book a secondary source. Mathewignash (talk) 14:11, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete a toy guide and two fansites are the sources provided. There are no reliable, independent sources that consider the real world impact, relevance and meaning of this fictional thing apart from work of fiction it inhabits. This sort of content is exactly what wikia and the transformer wiki are for. Here? It's just unverified clutter that encourages lower standards for encyclopedia content.Bali ultimate (talk) 14:41, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.