Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blake High School

Blake High School
Non-notable high school. Created by troll User:Haydes. RickK 00:46, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: BEEFSTEW rating of 0/10. -- [[User:Bobdoe| Bob  Doe ]] 01:53, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Non-notable. jni 07:02, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Currently a pointless article. Average Earthman 08:22, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. No evidence of notability.  SWAdair | Talk  10:24, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Agree with Average Earthman and other reasons stated.  What's a "C" rating and why should anyone care?  Apparently, the individual responsible for these may in fact be trolling if you take a look at his user page. - Lucky 6.9 16:18, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * From the Florida Department of Education; see Armwood_High_School.
 * Delete - User shold be banned, and is (IMO) beginning to approach the status of the B-Movie Bandit. ClockworkTroll 17:20, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Considering the first things Haydes created were recreations of B Movie Bandit articles I had JUST deleted, I think this IS the B Movie Bandit. RickK 18:06, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable school. Got a "C" in what?   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 18:17, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete trollstub. I came to the same conclusion as RickK.  Postdlf 21:41, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Schools need to meet a high bar to be noteworthy. --Improv 21:52, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. High school. anthony (see warning) 22:08, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I went to Blake.  It's utterly non-notable. Gamaliel 02:33, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Maybe we should note it as the most non-notable school. anthony (see warning) 19:56, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Intrigue 18:11, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * delete: high schools aren't shouldn't be treated as notable unless someone writes something notable about them. If people want to have all high schools listed (not a bad idea) then a single page for each area (approx 20M people) with a list of schools and a summary about each will do fine.  A separate, almost empty, page for each is ugly and boring. Mozzerati 21:45, 2004 Oct 8 (UTC) Mozzerati 13:59, 2004 Oct 9 (UTC)
 * Wow. You think that a high school doesn't become notable until some Wikipedian writes about it?  That's a very strange position. anthony (see warning) 03:24, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * It's slightly misphased I must admit, but the logic is simple. School's are sometimes notable for who they have schooled, occasionally for what they have done (new techniques, continuity through war etc.) etc.  If the school is notable but that information isn't there then the article is worse than useless (misleading and uninteresting, unlikely to inspire further research).  If the information isn't there because it doesn't exist then the article is a waste of space.  Space matters not becuase of disk space, but because uninteresting useless material has a cost: looking at random pages becomes more boring, tracking other peoples changes becomes more difficult (nobody knows much about uninteresting, useless topics) etc.  To be worth keeping the article must show that the school is notable.  Now that that's addressed, how about the other bit of my argument?  Isn't a list per area a good way of storing this information?  Mozzerati
 * As long as redirects are kept, I don't see the problem with merging multiple school articles into one page. Personally I think the city pages are more appropriate in most cases, but it doesn't really matter that much.  On the other hand, I don't see how this addresses your second point.  Changes would still have to be tracked.  And the "problem" of random page should be addressed directly.  Random page is already boring.  It should be tweaked somehow to address this.  Perhaps we could have random page work with the category system, so you could set random page to include or disinclude certain categories.  I don't know, because personally I don't care about random page.
 * By the way, your vote does not reflect your argument. If we delete this page, then the information isn't kept somewhere else.  "move to Education in Tampa, Florida Education in Florida" would be a vote which would reflect that.  anthony (see warning) 14:21, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I don't believe this will be an important (or should I say "notable" :-) part of a Florida education page, just an illustratative example. I don't think it's worth keeping just in case someone starts that page and remembers to merge.  However, my vote is conditional.  If someone starts an Education in Florida page which is more than a stub amd where this text could help then I am likely to change support merging to that.  That page should cover: age ranges in different schools; percentage leaving to higher education; history; policy on curriculum; policy on sports; policy on sex education; etc.  there are probably good places to start here  and  Mozzerati
 * There's not enough time to start a page on Education in Florida which isn't a stub. I agree with you it should be done, but this article's VfD period is already over. anthony (see warning) 20:36, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wile E. Heresiarch 04:55, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)