Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blake Wood


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 22:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Blake Wood

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Gsearch and gnews aren't turning up independent, reliable sources other than stat listings and passing mentions. So it comes down to this: if the highest level he's competed at is AA, has he competed at a "fully professional level" of the sport, as required by WP:ATHLETE? (The proposed WikiProject Baseball/Notability guidelines says not, but while this did have much consensus, it is just a draft.) Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  15:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  15:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  15:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Trusting nominators good faith search. There is broad interpretation among Wikipedia editors of what constitutes "fully professional" for baseball players, I interpret as having played in one of the major leagues outlined in the proposed (but not fully adopted) baseball notability guidelines, and that minor league players are not notable unless there has been significant coverage of them in reliable, independent sources (not just statistic pages), in which case they would pass the general notability guidelines and would not have to pass WP:ATHLETE.--kelapstick (talk) 16:06, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Minor League baseball players are under contract with a 'Professional' team, having to be stored in lower class teams, but still 'professional' players with stats. These type of minor league stub can further knowledge of the player by fans in the seats (with Blackberries etc, thus more webhits) or team scouts. WP:ATHLETE and 'people of notability' doesn't take into account that a 'player' and a 'person' of notability are two different things.  A 'person' is vague to define. A 'player' of notability, say a minor league baseball player, does have stats and awards to his name sometimes, and these stubs can add perfectly to what Wikipedia was meant to be in the first place!  I have reliable references and always note the stubs accordingly.Gjr rodriguez (talk) 21:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Not only are some statistic sites just stats on a webpage, they also carry 'history', 'contact information','stadium information', what can be considered "signifigant coverage" with more research available on player beyond just the stats. The websites I reference are more than just a stat site.  The stat sites are referenced for the stat tables, the bio info is from different sources melded and noted accordinglyGjr rodriguez (talk) 21:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Statistics or brief mentions in articles about minor league teams do not constitute "significant coverage in reliable sources," as required by WP:N. BRMo (talk) 04:15, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Passes WP:ATHLETE's requirement of playing in a fully professional league. Borgarde (talk) 04:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient notability per guidelines. Is not playing at the highest level and there is not substantial coverage in reliable sources. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Guidelines do not state highest level. Borgarde (talk) 13:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. WP:ATHLETE asks for a fully professional league. In different sports, this means different things, and in minor league baseball, this is under controversy. I would think no one believes that all minor leaguers are notable, as that makes no sense. By that same token, saying minor leaguers are never notable doesn't make sense, since one may have many secondary sources on his career. This means we have to compromise. Most frequently, this compromise has meant either a season at AAA, or a decent all-star appearance. If we were to go by this compromise, then he fails WP:ATHLETE and, consequently, WP:N. A minor leaguer would need secondary sources beyond statistical databases. Saying solely "keep meets wp:athlete" means nothing if it gives the implication that all minor leaguers are notable, which they are certainly not, and in the case of this one, he isn't. Wizardman  13:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Minor leaguers fail WP:ATHLETE, per longstanding deletion consensus. Average minor leaguers are never notable: if you get enough coverage to be notable for some other reason, you're not notable.  However, being a minor leaguer and never getting into the major leagues isn't a reason for deletion: after all, we don't delete Michael Jordan just because he was a minor leaguer who never reached the majors.  However, any minor leaguer who never goes higher and isn't notable for any other reason (such as this guy) is not notable overall.  Nyttend (talk) 00:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


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