Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blood Covenant (band)


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 21:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Blood Covenant (band)

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I don't like doing this, but I cannot let this one go any longer. (Please don't think I'm biting anyone, I'm not trying to) This band has been borderline for a while now, but IMO, google searches turn up nothing notable. You will see many strange things involving blood and ritualistic things involved in various religions in this search. It fails WP:RS and WP:N. They are not signed to a notable label nor have they made any tours to gain any notoriety. They fail WP:MUSIC too. The article says they are related to Ayas but that is only because the lead vocalist did a guest session on a song or two from Blood Covenant. Delete Undead Warrior (talk) 07:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.   -- Undead Warrior (talk) 07:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete After poking around the references, I must agree with the reasoning of the nominator. =- Mgm|(talk) 08:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I basically agree with the nom (self-released albums, no tours, little coverage etc.). Their one claim to notability is that they are the only "unblack" metal band in Armenia; whilst this needs sourcing, given that Metal Archives lists a grand total of 11 Armenian metal bands, I'm inclined to believe them. I am however not sure that this is enough to pass WP:MUSIC. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 09:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No chart performances, links from google = not worthy of wiki! (Neostinker (talk) 14:09, 17 November 2008 (UTC))
 * Keep 1. They are gonna sign to a "notable" label soon. I don't know any details. So the "label debate" can't be any reason for a deletion. 2. They WILL tour to gain notoriety in 2009/2010 in Russia and possibly Denmark. So this one can't be a reason, too. 3. They are a VERY notable band here, but I just didn't search for any sources. Again, no reason. 4. Let OTHERS to find sources! So, close this discussion and don't disturb me with your "unsourced" nominations anymore!
 * Comment You do realise you haven't rebutted anything there, right? 1. They are going to sign to a notable label. Well, first you need a source for that, and second they need to release two albums on it. 2. They will tour in 2009/2010. Well, they'd need significant coverage of said tours in reliable sources; as we're talking up to two years in the future I suggest you read WP:CRYSTAL. 3. They are very notable but you didn't look for sources. Well, go look for sources then. You can't establish notability by just using CAPSLOCK. 4. Let others do the work for you. Er, no, burden of proof, as always, is on the claimant. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 15:51, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. No sources to establish notability per WP:MUSIC. No third party sources at all. Rehevkor ✉  16:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 19:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 19:31, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete--unfortunately, the article's unsigned advocate/author is not helping his cause, and his arguments have been pretty well refuted. I also don't see notability (yet). "Let others find sources"? Well, they tried and failed. No record label, no notable tours, no coverage --> no Wikipedia article. Drmies (talk) 15:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note--we've gone over this before, I noticed, but with different contributors to the discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Blood_Covenant. Drmies (talk) 15:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I knew something looked strange. I nominated that a while ago and it was deleted. So, now after this is closed, Salt the article heavily. Undead Warrior (talk) 04:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


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