Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blood Ravens


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Redirect (non-admin closure), Consensus seems clear below. Protonk (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Blood Ravens

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Fictional organisation whose only notability is through basic plot elements of Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War. The Chapter itself is covered in sufficient detail in the parent article. This article fails to establish any notability through independent third-party sources; primary sources can be used to verify information but not to establish notability. Nomination was accidentally missed when nominating a slew of identically-sourced sister articles. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War for the nom's reasons. I don't care a whit about the article history. By the by, it's different from the mass AFD before; this group only appears in the licensed video game, and not the board game (other than a handful of tie-in promotional articles in the publisher's magazine. This makes it an ideal and easy redirect candidate, whereas the others were not.) - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 09:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect. A non-notable chapter with no real-world references.  --  JediLofty UserTalk 12:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect I'll admit the game largely influenced their development, but shouldn't we just add a small bit about the Blood Ravens at the end of Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War such as just saying founding or something? Nemesis646 (talk) 12:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep in some cacpacity as titular (i.e. notable as not all fictional organizations are titular) subject, i.e. legitimate search term. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 16:18, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect If some content from this article is judged important for inclusion in the article on the video game, then we can merge it. If not, we can delete it and then remake as a redirect.  Again, White Dwarf is published by GW and is therefore not independent.  Neither are the fictional works.  these are brigade level unit of a subfaction in a game.  I didn't know that we could get something less notable than the brigade level fictional units of a subfaction in 40K, but these are it.  As AMiB points out, they are only in the video games, not the miniature games.  Either way, no independent sources establish notability per WP:GNG. Protonk (talk) 17:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect - although lacking in real world sources, its a decent redirect title for the game. Redirect it to Dawn of War. Any coverage of the subject should be developed there rather than in a separate article. -- Sabre (talk) 17:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.