Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blood in the Snow Canadian Film Festival


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 07:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Blood in the Snow Canadian Film Festival

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Highly advertorialized article about a small film festival, not properly referenced as clearing WP:GNG or WP:ORGDEPTH. The referencing here is parked almost entirely on blogs and the festival's own primary source content about itself, which are not sources that can carry notability -- and the only two sources here that count as reliable ones at all are both in the same city's local media rather than evincing the wider coverage that an organization has to have to clear ORGDEPTH. In addition, there's a possible conflict of interest here, as about two weeks ago a newly-registered editor with no prior history named themself as "the new page moderator" who will be "monitoring" it from now on. But that's not how Wikipedia works: the article belongs to Wikipedia, not to the festival or to any individual editor who appoints themself as the "owner", and it has to follow Wikipedia's sourcing and content rules. There's simply not enough quality sourcing here, and far too much advertorialized text. Bearcat (talk) 03:14, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 03:30, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 03:30, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 03:30, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - spells it out; just would add that the self-appointed "moderator" should be warned on their talk page about why their conduct is inappropriate. Madg2011 (talk) 06:31, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is not notable at all. All the references mentioned therein and those I could find online via indepedent search do not render this notable at all. In addition, the editor who claims as moderator doesn't understand how wiki works let alone understanding what notability means. Xaxing (talk) 06:40, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - A quick google search finds this, this and this published in different years which should allow to pass WP:GNG and make a small article. The referencing is also similar to other articles in Category:Film festivals in Toronto, if this is not deemed notable merging them all should be considered. I don't think the article should be deleted, regardless of it's flaws, because people don't like a new editor (note, they did not create the article). SpaceInnovader (talk) 11:38, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Per WP:ORGDEPTH, something like this does not qualify for a Wikipedia article just because it's gotten some local coverage in its own local market — its media coverage has to expand beyond local. So just being able to show a couple of Toronto Star and Now links is not enough to get a Toronto-based event over the notability bar. Bearcat (talk) 15:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

To points addressed earlier, I will no longer be a moderator or owner of this page going forward. I was never owner of the page and was simply moderating to ensure false hoods were not reported. The entry is meant to inform interested parties about the festival in general and the work that has been done in the past. It was never intended that others in the wiki community could not contribute to the article going forward. You are correct in assuming that I am just learning how to edit and use Wikipedia, and would welcome feedback on how to improve. As for sources, you are correct obviously in stating most of the coverage is local as it is a Canadian Film Festival, but the festival does have some coverage from the United States as well in websites footnoted like Cinema Crazed and Cryptic Rock. Iwould also note that even though Toronto Based, Screen Anarchy is a worldwide recognized leader in film coverage that also employ people in markets like the UK and Japan in their editorial staff. I will also attempt to add more coverage in if I can. Hopefully, this addresses the concerns going forward, but if not I am willing to leave the Wikipedia community entirely if it is deemed necessary to do so. The article is meant as an educational piece, not an advertorial, as Bearcat previous edits to the page have made me realize the page may have come off too much as. This was never the intention. To restate, I will no longer be moderating this page and I am not the owner. We welcome all members of the Wiki community to participate. I may add to the article going forward - but I am stating here I will not remove any edits going forward. MovieJunkieTO —Preceding undated comment added 13:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I'm not counting the blocked sock so a little bit more input is required to resolve this.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 06:04, 9 March 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:49, 17 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.