Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue Cruise


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The rough consensus is that enough reliable-source coverage has been identified to establish notability. Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 04:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Blue Cruise

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rm self-promotion of tourist catch-word. WP:SPAM, essentially unreferenced and a catchall for travel information. Not encyclopedic. Student7 (talk) 22:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SPAM. Endofskull (talk) 23:26, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 15:55, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Promo / free-advertising.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 16:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per WP:RS and [WP:N]]. Monterey Bay (talk) 01:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose at the risk of being against the opinion of the majority. Blue cruise is a very common name created not by the tourist agents but by a respectable authoress. It is not a company or a brand name and it certainly deserves an article in a 3.5 million article encyclopaedia. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 06:39, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Advertising/spam/promo article. D oh5678  Talk  18:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No WP:RS and is quite confusing to read. Although its not clear, I'm certain the intent is to advertise. Phearson (talk) 21:33, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep on the strength of this NYT article, which should be referenced in the article. Several other potential NYT references exist as well.  A simple news search shows that this is a notable concept.  Article needs to be expanded and wikified, but the concept is solid.  Ebikeguy (talk) 22:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I added an NYT reference. I think the subject matter is pretty clearly notable at this point.  The article needs improvements, so I also added a rescue tag.  Ebikeguy (talk) 23:27, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 11:56, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep The New York Times has various places it mentions the blue cruises in Turkey. So its a real thing and clearly notable enough to get coverage.   D r e a m Focus  23:30, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: infrequently employed neologism/translation-of-a-foreign-language-term. That a single prominent source makes mention of it (but gives a divergent definition) does not make it notable. I'm sure dozens (hundreds?) of countries have local terms for local tourist attractions, but this does not mean that Wikipedia should maintain WP:DICTDEFs on these terms, let alone their English translations. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 07:48, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Not the greatest article, but still the fact that the New York Times attests to its notability argues for keep. The barrier between Turkish and English is rather high and the topic seems to have jumped that. It also has some good information for the few people in the English speaking world who might be interested, maybe potential tourists to Turkey or students in geography classes. Merge to "Tourism in Turkey", or whatever, is also possible. Maybe better.Kitfoxxe (talk) 15:48, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have now added citations from the NYT and Newsweek.  Like it or not, this is a notable concept with solid RS support.  The article deserves a place in Wikipedia.  Ebikeguy (talk) 17:01, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Added citations to books, WP:RS, and copyedited for clarity, changing to the indefinite article "a blue cruise," to match the Dutch version. Discovered in the process of adding citations that this term appears to have literary origins which predate its use in the tourist industry. We could use help from some Turkish speakers to expand on its significance in literature.  Trilliumz (talk) 23:17, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Found another decent book source, this looks like a notable concept. There are a ton of google news and book hits for the Turkish translation, as well. Qrsdogg (talk) 19:15, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Added your book reference to article as historical context for the term. Ebikeguy (talk) 20:12, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Reliable sources are already used in the article, and it is now clear that this term has a historical background. --Seksen (talk) 17:02, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, sure it promotes tourism to Turkey, and certainly it is a recent coinage. But the NYTimes article validates it.  (And it sounds lovely).I.Casaubon (talk) 19:04, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.