Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue Money (Film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Blue Money (Film)

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1. no reliable sources 2. fails Wikipedia:Notability (films) 3. background info - non notable director, possibly notable producer Widefox (talk) 15:51, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 22:57, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


 * KEEP: An obscure film, which had a limited theatrical release; but, still merited review, at the time, in October 1972 Box Office, and December 12, 1972 Variety; and, reviews at IMDB. The producer and some of those who worked on the film were notably in the film industry, which they portray, at the time. It serves to capture a moment in time, and place, which is all history is. It has since been included in a number of movie collections, which are readily available; and, have been further reviewed through retailer sites, such as Amazon. IMBD and TCM would seem to be reliable sources. TCM It would be a disservice to the Wiki Community to delete this brief article on this obscure film, which users might run across. Laboris Dulcedo (talk) 02:13, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: Reviews on IMDb do not count as a reliable source that shows notability, as IMDb itself is only considered a trivial source. (Trivial sources do not and cannot show notability.) Neither can reviews through Amazon or any other merchant site. Film database entries as a whole cannot show notability either, as they merely show that the movie exists and existing does not show notability. Also, it doesn't really matter if the filmmaker or its stars went on to notability themselves or worked on other notable productions, as notability is not inherited merely by association. WP:NOTINHERITED I'll see what I can find, but the sources given in the article at present show zero notability and could never show notability. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 04:22, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: One of the difficulties in finding references is that the film is listed with multiple release and production dates, ranging from 1970 through to 1975, as is the case at IMDB and TCM. It is ironic, that this low-budget film, with all its video releases and television showings has possibly been seen by more people than John Carter (film); although, that may be notable, for other reasons, such as its budget.Laboris Dulcedo (talk) 15:17, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I just went and wikified the thing per WP:MOSFILM, but the greater issue is notability and lack of reliable sources that address this film in any detail. Books? Reviews? Aalysis? It being obscure may be its downfall. Find us a link to that Variety review.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:22, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 06:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.