Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue Springs Police Department


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The result was keep. Michig (talk) 13:07, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Blue Springs Police Department

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There is not much WP:RS about this department other than spurious incidents such as. No real WP:RS in the article. Has had tag about needing better referencing for six years. --David Tornheim (talk) 08:17, 15 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:GNG. Is the Blue Springs Police Department the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources? Why, yes it is: this piece has a whole section on them, this story is clearly about them (at least their use of a new tool), this story is about a new unit in the BSPD. I think there's at least an argument that WP:GEOLAND might apply here but I don't think we need to go there. FOARP (talk) 18:44, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The first article appears to count towards notability (if it is acceptable WP:RS), but if this is all we have, it makes more sense to put that in Militarization of police. The others ones (about a crime map and the purchase of two motorcycles) is as trivial (and only of interest to those of the community) as the examples I gave.
 * My biggest concern is the lengthy article has much information and no sources to back it up--and I am not expecting any will be forthcoming. Hence, WP:TNT might apply.  Rather than WP:TNT, I would be okay with moving the article to draft space until all the non-referenceable material is deleted -and- notability is also established.
 * As for WP:GEOLAND, Blue Springs, Missouri already has an article. I don't follow the argument about the police department being a "place". --David Tornheim (talk) 19:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The WP:GEOLAND point is because the BSPD has an inhabited jurisdictional area, it's not the strongest point though - that's the existence of significant coverage in RSs. FOARP (talk) 12:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Note - I think it is fairly obvious that a 150+ year old police force for a town of 50K will meet NORG - beyond crime reporting, such organization are almost always covered for various other aspects - though this are sometimes hard to locate in the crime crud. WP:TNT (or move to draft) for unverifiable content in the article is a more compelling argument. Icewhiz (talk) 09:20, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:GNG. We should be slow to remove articles about organisations which have been around for 150 years just because Google doesnt show much about them. There will be coverage in print. Rathfelder (talk) 10:36, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:GNG. reliable sourcing, coverage.BabbaQ (talk) 17:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Huh? Which of these five resources do you claim meets our standard of reliable WP:SECONDARY?
 * Bureau, U.S. Census. "American FactFinder - Search". factfinder.census.gov. Retrieved 2018-02-07.
 * "Police Department | City of Blue Springs, MO - Official Website". www.bluespringsgov.com. Retrieved 2018-02-07.
 * Media, Mile By Mile. "Blue Springs Police Dept in Blue Springs Missouri". www.road-police.com. Retrieved 2018-02-07.
 * "IAFC Volunteer and Combination Officers Section - VCOS" (PDF). www.vcos.org. Retrieved 2018-02-07.
 * BSPD Official Website - Organization
 * --David Tornheim (talk) 17:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Deletion is not cleanup There are literally thousands of newspaper articles to sort through to improve this article (available in a news archives)  and hundreds that have SIGCOV.  I added a tiny handful of sources, but, frankly Deletion is not cleanup and I am happy to leave this as yet another undersourced, inadequate article on a notable topic in need of an editor. Just an an example of what is out there, however, anyone remember the moral panic over  Goth subculture?  Well, during that panic, the U.S. Congress earmarked a  "$273,000 federal grant that U.S. Rep. Sam Graves had procured to study goth culture in Blue Springs, Missouri."  George Bush fils wanted the money back to use for Pell Grants. The sutdy discovered that 35 kids at the high school were dressing Goth. Congressman Graves told a reporter that "They're doing self-mutilation, animal sacrifices, the sort of violent behavior and drug use that possibly could lead up to what happened at Columbine in 1999 with Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris."   And  this police dept became the poster child not only of a national moral panic but of a national funding debate.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


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