Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blunt Force Trauma (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 16:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Blunt Force Trauma (band)
non-notable band. speedy declined, prod contested Will (talk) 01:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * This band includes Felix Griffin, former drummer of crossover pioneers D.R.I. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Rotten_Imbeciles).
 * Felix is widely regarded as a pioneering thrash drummer, and is a legend in this genre, and the albums on which he is featured (1985's "Dealing With It", 1987's "Crossover", 1988's "4 of a Kind", and 1989's "Thrash Zone" - the band's "Metal Blade" period), are widely considered to be the band's best works, and are widely regarded as classics of the genre (especially "Dealing With It"). Therefore, according to Wikipedia's notability criteria, his current activities are notable.
 * This group should qualify under the notability criteria for musicians and ensembles (#6: "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable"). D.R.I. were hugely influential to thrash and metal in general. They had videos on MTV during the years that Felix Griffin was in the band. Please see http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/dri/artist.jhtml - also, http://www.mtv.com/search/?searchterm=dri lists their entire Metal Blade Records catalog.
 * Sources are noted in the article. Bft (talk)
 * Weak keep. Seems like the notability is met, but only just barely so.  Also, the article could use a bit of improvement, although that isn't a valid deletion argument, as it has other remedies; simply throwing it out there. Celarnor Talk to me  02:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep based on the fact that the band has a member of another semi-notable band, just enough to scrape through WP:MUSIC. Could stand a cleanup and better sources, but those are issues that can be settled outside AfD. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 02:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:MUSIC owing to DRI member. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 10:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep -- Seems to meeet WP:N and WP:Music...though only just... --Camaeron (t/c) 11:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 5 arguments to keep so far... how many do we need to leave the article up? A relatively small but significant subculture of music fans worldwide were hugely influenced by this band's drummer's previous work. His previous band has their own article, I thought it notable to include his current project. Bft (talk)
 * Wikipedia uses consensus, not voting, so the number of keeps is immaterial. Most discussions are left open for five days, although sometimes they will be closed earlier if the consensus becomes real obvious or if the nominator withdraws. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 19:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, TPH. Bft (talk)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.