Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob And George

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was redirected to the existing and more complete Bob and George. - Mgm|(talk) 11:25, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Bob And George
Delete. This is non-notable and probably self-promotion.WAvegetarian 19:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC) Redirect - I know of a few readers, and I'd argue it is notable. (Though personally I don't see the appeal) --John Kenneth Fisher 22:15, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * It's notable to me; it was one of the first webcomics that I started reading (though I no longer do). I don't think it's self-promotion (the author of the webcomic doesn't have to stoop that low), but it may be non-notable. For me, it's a weak keep. jglc | t | c 19:41, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - fairly notable - over 11,000 Google hits . Blackcats 19:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)  (Switch to redirect now that other article has been found) Blackcats 08:00, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment It has under 5,000 true hits, include the artist's last name. It only gets 11,000 if you count Bob and George (insert family name here) WAvegetarian 21:01, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The Google search I did was for "Bob and George" (in quotes like that) along with the word "comics." I'm pretty sure the vast majority of those hits were about this comic strip, and that a lot of people talk about the comic strip without mentioning the last name of the artists.  5,000 is actually impressive for last name too, since that means there are five thousand more in depth discussions about it online. Blackcats 21:56, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. In addition, certain resources tout this as "the first sprite-based webcomic ever," which, imho, is a notable position in webcomic history. jglc | t | c 20:14, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete I've heard of it, and it's actually pretty funny, but the Alexa rank of 64,745 doesn't speak volumes about its notability. Somebody's probably going to say that that's "pretty good for a web comic" or something along those lines, but I don't see why we need different standards for webcomics vs. websites in general. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  21:10, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: If the assertion that B&G is really "the first sprite webcomic ever," I would think that might be grounds for notability. Would you accept making an exception to the Alexa-ranking criteria for a less-well-known, but genre-creating or -altering entry?  jglc | t | c 06:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable. JamesBurns 06:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment - Andrew mentioned that he's heard of it, but I don't know if he's really into comics or not. I'm not a comic aficionado at all, but I'd heard of it.  For me that's a rule of thumb when judging notability - if the word's gotten around enough that someone like me, who's not into the overall genre has heard of it, then it must be notable.  Of course the converse of that wouldn't neccesarily be true.  But yeah - since I've heard of it, and I'm not a comics or web comics fan (and don't have any kind of personal connection with the authors and they don't live in my area) then it's notable.  Blackcats 19:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep: a long-time staple of the webcomics genre (6 years with very few breaks), possibly the first sprite comic ever created, and for some time was actually funny; definitely notable. However, article does not establish notability and definitely needs expansion. --Oh!  Redirect Bob and George.  No wonder this article sucks--we've already got a much better one!  Marblespire 08:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect now that Marblespire's found Bob and George. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:26, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Curses! Capitalisation, mine foul enemy, thou hast struck me again! shakes fist. jglc | t | c 16:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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