Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob Cruz


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:12, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Bob Cruz

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Couldn't find anything on Google or in the article that would suggest Bob Cruz is notable. I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 07:05, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Nothing here is a strong enough claim of notability that he would get an automatic inclusion freebie in the absence of a WP:GNG-passing volume of reliable source coverage about him — but of the three "references" here, two are on an unreliable fansite for the radio station he worked at and the third is the personal website of a former colleague, which means none of them constitute reliable sources for the purposes of establishing wikinotability. I'm willing to reconsider this if somebody with better access than I've got to US media coverage of the 1970s and 1980s can locate stronger evidence that he would actually pass GNG for something, but nothing here entitles him to an exemption from having to be shown to pass GNG. Bearcat (talk) 20:22, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Maintain. Fair enough, here are some notable facts from reliable sources. Cruz was the last DJ hired at what was the number-one top-40's radio station in North America. He ultimately replaced Dan Ingram — "the greatest afternoon drive jock ever" — in the high revenue-generating timeslot of afternoon-drive. Later, he became the on-air announcer for ABC's 20/20 program.  His resignation from WABC in 1981 marked the beginning of a string of departures at the station, triggered by a drop in ratings that precipitated the change to an all-talk format. Cruz was a casualty of AIDS in 1995, by which time 500,000 cases had been reported in the U.S.  Upon his death, ABC's 20/20 did a special tribute to him. algocu (talk) 18:31, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:24, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable, most of the existing sources don't even mention "Bob Cruz". - The   Magnificentist  11:15, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Current sourcing does not impress, but he received fairly consistently ongoing, if minor, coverage in broadcasting industry periodicals. There's quite a bit about the WABC format changes, in both Billboard and Television/Radio Age. I don't have access to most of this from where I am currently (especially the Television/Radio Age material). That said, the Billboard "Vox Jox" column (dedicated to DJ news) mentioned him fairly often: his hiring, timeslot and format changes, an acknowledgement that he was the most successful then-current DJ for the station (in the 1980-09-06 issue), his departure from radio to focus on 20/20 (1981-03-07), and a detailed (and very different from the previous week) report on his departure from the station (1981-03-14). I would not be immensely surprised for contemporary print sources to have offered more coverage of his tenure at 20/20 and his 1980 work announcing the Summer Olympics for ABC. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 17:32, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete none of the "notable facts" mentioned by Algocu are sufficient for notability, they mostly just prove he existed. Power~enwiki (talk) 05:45, 1 June 2017 (UTC)


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